These might be the good old days. Go outside, feel the grass, say wassup to your neighbors,… whatever you do that means community, because sh*t might get bad for a while.
as an european, i am watching in absolute shock. i really dont understand how HALF the USA can still vote for this Chicken Nugget of a person.
Some people only have information from one side of the story. If Trump wins, he will likely try to mimic what both Putin and Orbán did with the media.
While you’re mostly right, it isn’t really half because we have this fun thing called the electoral college, that likes to make Republicans win.
Well and so far the popular vote is more red then blue. I think the USA will get the government the voters deserve.
Here’s hoping the rest of the world can not get pulled down.
I’m someone smack in the middle of a liberal city in an always blue state, I don’t know what else there is for me to do. I’ve attempted helping educate and getting people to vote in other states who normally choose not to, I’ve voted in every election down to local boards and try to know who I’m voting for. Locally, we had a lot of successes so far this election in our state…but that won’t help much if, y’know, fascism.
People turn fascist when they’re desperate and angry, same as always. So when people experience economic hardship they look for somone to blame, often immigrants. So we call them racists, and I guess that’s true, but it comes from something else; economic inequality.
In Europe we do the same thing, in the French elections the rural population voted overwhelmingly for the fascists - here in brown.
In the German elections, the poorer former East-German provinces also supported the fascist AfD, here shown in the darker colours.
Even in Denmark, where I live, the more right-wing and extremist parties are popular in the southern, western, and northern parst of the country - the poorer rural areas, who’s seen their jobs disappear, their shops close, and their income stall even as the country as a whole gets richer.
So the challenge of liberal democracy is clear; show the population outside the cities that they, too, can get their piece of the pie. If we cannot solve that, then we’ll see more country turn fascist in the next decade.
Not sure what to tell you, I am in another nation but a similar situation. The state of things is now to the point media is untrusted, nationalism is both here and missing, while people are angry but happy to blame the “other guys”.
It’s not even close to half. Republicans are a quarter to a third of the country.
It’s voter suppression and Democrats being the biggest possible fuckups they could be at every fucking opportunity.
You could watch the reactionism ramp up as they slipped into the minority during Clinton; and white men struggling to deal with the loss of their relevance has basically been the story of American politics since.
I honestly find this hilarious for a couple reasons—
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His retarded voters are going to wake up 6 months from now with more Indian, Mexican, and Middle Easter neighbors than ever before.
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Inflation is going to increase like it did before under him.
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The measures his government will pass will heavily favor corporations, both foreign and domestic.
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If incels think that women hated them before, just wait, his incel base of voters are going to be enemy number one with women from all walks of life.
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Women dying from lack of abortion care is going to get worse (I don’t find this funny). The wives and daughters of republicans are going to among those that pass away from the lack of abortion care.
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Trump doesn’t care about White people and their weird obsession with being replaced. He even stated that he’s going to increase immigration to levels never before seen due to AI, for some reason.
This upcoming Trump presidency is going to be a dumpster fire for his voting base because he will accomplish none of the things that they think Trump will do. He won’t get them a wife, he won’t end no fault divorce, he won’t make anime real, he won’t start mass deportations—he’s just trying to stay out of jail.
For the rest of us, just laugh. We’ve been through 4 years of this idiot before.
The only thing I find irksome is the gloating of his retarded voting base. They would really vote against their own interest just to laugh at CNN/MSNBC pundits panicking online. It’s like setting fire to your house because it makes your neighbor seethe.
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NYT is calling it for Trump. America as we know it, may be over.
The war in Ukraine is about to end, with Russia probably getting everything they want, NATO might disband, China likely takes Taiwan, 100 years of authoritarianism and tyranny may be upon us after Trump truly consolidates powers, and nukes the Federal government.
I fucking wish I was being hyperbolic.
Nah, we’re gonna balkanize sooner or later. Economy is fucked beyond fucked. (Thank you Reagan) It won’t be able to keep going. Especially not with republicans at the tiller. The end of the US will be the same as every other empire. But with nukes.
Why Reagan? Who moved all the manufacturing to china and built up China?
Stagnant wages, weakened unions, at-will employment, low corporate taxes, etc. All Reaganomics. Supply side economics. Basically destroyed the economic powerhouse that won the Cold War. It’s still a goliath, but instead of an immovable industrial bullwark its all debt driven gambling now. Speculation and financialization.
I like the part about Ukraine. Also don’t care about Taiwan.
But kinda wish democracy maintains in us.You won’t care about Taiwan until your iPhone costs $3000, then you might realize it was worth defending
I don’t use Phones. Besides - they just gonna move chip making to us in that case.
They’ve been trying to move chip fabricators to the US for decades. The education system is shit here and we don’t have the talent. Also it’s really difficult to get the fabricators right and built for a reasonable cost. So yeah. Your non-iphone is gonna be pricey.
i mean, we’re literally building fabs under the CHIPS act right now.
Remember when the US government gave the telecoms billions to build gigabit internet infrastructure nationwide and they fuckin just didn’t do it?
Pepperidge Farm remembers. Show me a working fab as a result of that act after Trump and Co manage to not fuck it up and then your comment might have some merit. Note: the coming brain drain will not be kind to the USA.
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666 upvotes, hahaha
Ok everyone chill. Yeah, it sucks. But we kinda foresaw this ever since Biden decided to run again. Take a deep breath, think about it more later. The worst thing is to be angry instead of smart. Remember George Floyd. Remember specifically how everyone got angry and did dumb things about it, and today efforts at police reform are actually in a worse place than they were before he was murdered on video.
Think about ways to counter Trump that will be more effective and less just expressions of rage. I think the biggest problem is the media that really plays to Trump’s reality TV-style politics. It’s not enough to wine that the voters are too stupid, but what do we do about it?
It’s not enough to wine that the voters are too stupid,
this is ultimately the problem though. The voter base is fucking retarded, and it’s fuelled by a massive propaganda machine. There is literally nothing we can do here.
Every federal judge and probably the supreme Court for the rest of our lives is going to be wholly owned by the dictatorship. Checks and balances are essentially broken at this point in the president can do whatever he wants with impunity. What about to hit a massive recession. What smart thing do you think were going to do about it?
You’re not worried about him falling off the toilet and dieing?
Trump is just the useful idiot to install Vance, who’s essentially a Musk proxy.
Well, he’s a Peter Thiel proxy… but Musk is also a Thiel proxy so that can get confusing.
and dying*
and *dyeing
Just me?
I don’t think anyone is, US healthcare is some of the best in the world and he can afford the best doctors. They can easily keep him alive another 4 years.
US healthcare is some of the best in the world
Who told you that? “The U.S. healthcare system ranks last among 10 high-income countries in the 2024 Commonwealth Fund report”
He forgot to add: “if you are a billionaire”
and he can afford the best doctors.
“and he can afford the best doctors.”
seems like they didnt to me.
If Trump loses there are the next two months of wondering how many people will die around the inauguration, then the next two years of wondering what the project 2027 people are going to do, then…
The only way to stop this is to fix the US system. Fix the courts. Fix the elections. Fix gerrymandering. Fix the right wing control of the media. Fix the lies from the “news”.
A law that said the press can not be for-profit, would never happen, but would probably help
Thank Reagan. He ended the Fairness Doctrine. Which is the only reason Trumpism ever happened.
Its 7 minutes until polls close where I am. I voted absentee but still thinking of everyone that still needs to vote
Me: unsubbing every single politics community
Showerthoughts:
Hope you’re not American, because if you are then it’s gonna be really hard to block out the consequences of this election
You need to block users. Users like me! I am glad you are using lemmy your way. Peace.
selfaware lemmy.ml user? based.
Can’t stress this enough. And block based on keywords. My lemmy experience improved dramatically once I started blocking users, subs, and instances I didn’t like.
Those users get to enjoy their thing, and I wont yuck their yum. I’ve managed to cutout most of the rage bait and the stuff in my feed is genuinely interesting.
Accurate
People outside the US have always been terrified of what the US president might do. Imagine if China had military bases all over the world.
The Kenyan Ambassador to the UN once addressed criticism of his country’s relationship with China thusly:
“Every time the English visit Kenya, they bring a lecture. Every time the Chinese visit Kenyan, they build a hospital”
Which is exactly why China is going to win. They play the long game where we only care about the next quarterly report. We drop bombs, they build schools and hospitals and install water wells. We trap countries into IMF loan scams, they give interest free loans.
We make mass graves. China makes friends.
Valid take. The military industrial complex is a terrifying ordeal.
We haven’t been
And the thing is: Trump is not a clever man. In fact, he’s blantantly, obviously, ferociously stupid. He didn’t just appear out of nowhere. The rest of us have been watching this dog eat grass for the last 50 years.
I can’t beleive the number of New Yorkers (NYC residents and expats) that trust Trump. He has wreaked havoc across the city and metro area with terrible buildings, stiffed contractors, and constant financial mockery. His post-TV show perception has done an insane job of making even the most affected people forget what a sack of shit he his. They really think 1. He runs businesses well due to his continued financial growth and that 2. Running the country like his businesses will somehow benefit them, the national equivalent of those laid off from his private endeavors.
So anyway, that’s how I know they just racist assholes.
The best part will be if he wins, those in power will just sit around with their thumbs up their butts waiting for fascism to take over on Jan. 20th.
Can’t the president do anything he wants right now??? 🧐
If only he wasn’t a fucking coward
No, only what the SCOTUS allows him to. Democrats aren’t allowed to do anything.
Well, he probably could initiate anything he wanted on the grounds that they said that any official act is immune. He could probably get away with quite a bit before they managed to get together and stop him saying it wasn’t an official act.
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The first time he was elected, it was still inexcusable to vote for a known racist, rapist asshole, but nobody thought he’d actually make a serious effort to destroy democracy. It’s been a well-known fact ever since.
The Democrats love him because he invigorates voters in the midterms and the next presidential election.
This will be the last presidential election.
People around the world already live in terror of what USA government may do to them
Exactly. OP is most privileged take, most useless “allies”.
Also, vote if you haven’t yet.
I don’t think I can
Yep, already dropped of my mail-in ballot in person and received an email from the county election supervisor that my vote counted 🤠
I voted, but since I’m not in a swing state I wouldn’t go so far as to say my vote counted.
Not with that attitude.
House and Senate matter far more than the presidency, without them the president has very little influence on policy with exception of veto power.
With 2/3 control, the president wouldn’t even have veto power and would be entirely powerless.
Vote for your congressional representation! This is the one day that the little guys can determine the policy direction of the country.
I voted mostly for my local elections. Those are sometimes determined by a dozen votes and can have a huge impact on day to day life.
Iowa wasn’t considered a swing state till the Selzer Poll. Thank you for helping to build consensus!
