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Stop. Using. Youtube.
And replace it with what?
Pornhub?
Butt stuff
Deez nutz
Literally any other form of entertainment.
Though the statement was to stop using it, not replace it.
For watching YT videos: NewPipe or Tubular for phone app. FreeTube on Pc. Invidious in browser.
Just a few examples, there is loads more alternatives.
Including different platforms all together. Too much to choose from.
I pay for a YouTube premium family plan. It’s probably a rip off but my kids enjoy content on YouTube more than any other platform but YouTube is not safe for children with ads enabled (and YouTube kids is a joke)
Soggy cereal made a video about how YouTube ads are unsafe a few weeks ago and that was exactly my experience before I started paying for yt premium, look that up if you are curious
It’s not just ads on Youtube. It’s also all the sponsor crap and filler content to get to 10 minute videos.
I use it with an adblocker and sponsorblock but it’s still shit.
Tinfoil hat time:
YouTube allows/endorses/pushes ads not suitable for kids because they know parents, of all people, have no time to curate their kids’ ad experience and will just fork over the cash.
I think your theory is plausible. On the YT smart TV app, the ads seem to be increasingly about unpleasant things like dick pills, period pads, and constipation treatments. I think they literally serve up unsavory ad content as a way of punishing you into shelling out for a subscription. Jokes on them, I just switched to SmartTube.
And youtube. Kids sucks so much because they don’t really want anyone to use it… Sadly though, they don’t have to plan to do these things. They just don’t invest in making them kid safe.
what ads? taps ublock and firefox android
I can’t cope with the shitty translate on Firefox mobile, I live in a non English country and it’s driving me insane
Swedish is fine
Why not just switch it to English? I’m from non English country as well, most my apps are in English
I say this every time the topic comes up, and I’m always downvoted for it but here goes again:
YouTube is going to do this suit because YouTube CAN do this shit. It’s their company. They can enshitify it as much as they’d like. And they WILL enshitify it as much as they like as long as people continue to use it.
How long have they been in existence now? 18-19 years? And with every year they gets worse and worse, while growing bigger and bigger. Why do you think that is?
Could it be because they know that although everyone will bitch about them, complain about them, and write scathing tech articles about them- people will still gobble their shit up regardless.
Don’t like what YouTube is doing? Maybe think about not using it. Because as long as you’re participating- either by creating content or viewing it- you are a big part of the reason they’re getting away with doing this shit.
Downvote away.
They get away with it because they don’t have serious competition and the reason for that is that allowing anyone to upload videos for free, to be viewed by anyone else for free, is by itself not a viable business model.
Let’s just say, unless YouTube crosses people’s bottom lines and there’s an alternative being actively advertised, people won’t move.
Otherwise, they push that bottom line further.
The lack of alternatives where creators actually get paid for people watching their videos is the biggest problem.
Agreed. Seems there no floor to what people will put up with from them. I can’t understand it. I’ve tried products and services I found that I absolutely hated. I don’t have those products or services anymore.
It’s pretty easy to not do something.
I’m very surprised you got downvoted for saying that
Me too. I never try to come off as pushy on the topic. Just suggesting an option, but man… people haven’t responded well to it in the past.
Those poor suckers. I don’t think I’ve seen an advertisement on YouTube in something like five years.
Edit: And I sure as hell ain’t paying Google either.
Fuck yeah.
For anyone out of the loop, look into Freetube and Grayjay. There are other apps that do the same thing too, but those are good to start with.
If you see 0 ads and don’t pay anyone, I’m not sure how the service could be sustainable. I’m also against ads but only if you’re actually paying. That’s why I do pay for a yt family plan but also use adblock+sponsorblock.
I’m not sure how the service could be sustainable.
Bold of you to assume any of us give a shit about keeping Alphabet’s operations sustainable for them.
Google has plenty of money. That’s the way I see it.
Afaik, business units are individual. Their products don’t finance each other.
And the user experience I should expect depends on their stupid hierarchy for reasons I should care about, I’m sure, but still I find myself not. Choosing to enshittify is a choice. Choosing a business model that depends on coercion into an ecosystem that will become enshittified after accumulating a critical mass is another, even more evil choice. Doing it while those cheering loudest are the ones being fucked hardest (I mean, there’s still a “certain line” between how badly “certain groups” are discriminated against, but let’s keep things broad here because we all know the in-group is going to shrink… you know the poem, those that don’t speak up and all that) is yet another choice and one that I’m not willing to join. Doing it while playing monopolistic games arguably even more strongly than Microsoft did when it got hit with a Nynex-level antitrust suit is a step even further down the fuck-me-brick road. The list goes on. Have you met Android??? Google’s motto used to be Don’t Be Evil. Yeah, I’m at least that old. Fight me.
Edit: please don’t fight me. I’m in some back pain right now from some light physical engagement the other day. I’m also, at a minimum, that old…
Dude, if you dislike it that much you could just like… not use it?
Stringing more non-sequitors into this probably won’t make it make more sense
It’s not. Why do you want it to be? It’s one of the most enduring social media monopolies, and it should be brought down. The more they lose revenue, the more they are forced to squeeze, the more they enshittify, the more people are pushed to make and use alternatives, and the stronger those alternatives get.
Honestly once youtube’s network can be usurped by something like peertube, I think that might be the ballgame for centralised social media. It is the hardest one to topple because of bandwidth costs, which means once it goes the case for needing a corporation to fund our networks kind of collapses with it.
Revanced, ublock origin solved the ads issues on android and on the browser.
Anyone have a (free) solution for Google tv?
SmartTube Beta: https://smarttubenext.org/
Thus guy is an absolute legend, the project has been alive for like ten years at this point and still gets updates and fixes regularly.
Legend. Actually, I saw a comment further up the thread after writing mine. I installed the beta straight away, works great!
Yup. Even comes by default with sponsor block and some other things, which is customisable
Vpn to albania.
Google’s ad-pocalypse is a self-licking ice cream cone. Boasting about $10.4 billion squeezed from advertisers while users rage-install adblockers? That’s platform decay in action. The “diminishing returns” of shoving 15 unskippable ads into a 3-minute tutorial is laughable.
Creators churning out AI slop just to feed the algorithm? Tragic. Why innovate when you can monetize desperation? The ad bubble will burst soon, and we’ll all laugh at brands paying billions to reach bots and ad-blind zombies.
Keep stacking those trackers, Sundar. We’ll keep finding ways to mute this digital servitude.
edit: toned down bold and italic
not gonna comment on your statements but you emphasize too many things.
Appreciate the feedback! I’ve edited the original comment
<3 looks and reads much better
I have no issue in paying creators with my YouTube Premium subscription. What annoys me is seeing creators feed the algorithm with “regular posts” or create filler videos for sponsors when they have nothing to say.
That and seeing explainer videos from someone who learned something five minutes before recording… the number of copycats and regurgitating the same news content is depressing.
The same goes for the epidemic of faceless AI videos narrating generic content… horrible. The “don’t recommend channel” must be worn off by now, from me alone. :-)
Fantastic exceptions from talented creators make it worth it, so I am happy.
I use Firefox with uBlock Origin and SponsorBlock. I never see any ads on youtube.
Reminder that Firefox on mobile also has ublock origin and other add ons that improve the experience.
This is the way. Just make sure to disable the YouTube app on your phone so links people send you don’t open in the app.
Yeah extensions on Firefox mobile is fucking awesome
Does Firefox on iOS have extensions? I have to use Orion by Kagi to get extensions on iOS.
Look into Sideloadly and uYouPlus by qnblackcat . I’ve been using it for years now, and while a hassle to sign the apps every week, it’s the best we have unfortunately.
Ads didn’t make 10 billion, Google charged advertisers 10 billion. IMO ads have gone so pervasive they’ve hit a point of diminishing returns. They’re everywhere, we hate them, and those 10 billion spent would have to bring many more billions in sales to be an attractive service.
I can’t wait for the ad bubble to burst, as advertisers understand they’re just giving money away to megaadvertisers for paltry conversions.
I’m an admin in Google Ad Manager for a few hundred sites. Saying that to say I’ve read a lot of their documentation. They have a great graph showing this very concept. Less ads, less money, happy users. More ads, more money, unhappy users. They’re aware. They aren’t pouring the poison. They’re designing the pitcher and selling different size cups.
So they are aware of how terrible ads are and they intentionally want to keep it this way, so that they can sell advertisers “better ads” for higher premium as a form of product and price diversification, with those “better” products they offer eventually end up being terrible and make the ads situation as a whole worse, so they can keep introducing new kinds of “better ads” product to have a “justified” way of asking even more money from advertisers?
Can I dm you a question about google ad spending?
Edit: ok jesus no ad questions 🤣, how do y’all think people promote their small businesses. I don’t advertise much but we’re all forced to live in this capitalist bullshit and while word of mouth helps if you have a tucked away location you need to pop up on google maps.
Influencer sponsorships, especially for beauty influencers, have already been declining. Companies realize that these influencers are just posting ads now and people don’t believe their “honest opinion” anymore. So it’s a mystery to me why companies still pay so much money for regular online ads.
Control over the finalized product. You can easily shape an ad to have your exact message reach the right people, and have that ad be more attractive. With an influencer sponsorship you do not have as much control over the final product or the audience.
thats why i block them all.
they aint making money off of annoying me.
What youtube ads, I haven’t seen one in years, fortunately.
I have to see them at school all the time, because our
teacher’steachers don’t bother installing adblockers.teacher’s
Now I’m doubly disappointed in your teachers.
Woopsie! That’s what 7 years of Dutch grammar does to you.
Mine is capitalising everything because of German.
Not Everything, just Nouns.
At least German is consistent, unlike English where every so-called “rule” nearly has more exceptions than places it applies. As a native speaker I’m always amazed that anyone manages to learn our train wreck of a language.
Same. We should all collectively abandon ship and just learn Esperanto or something.
EDIT: Woops, got confused myself
The plural -s in Dutch only gets an apostrophe if the stem word ends on an open vowel. So it’s cavia-cavia’s on the one hand, but kikker-kikkers on the other (and la[de]-lades). So even in Dutch this’d be incorrect ;)
Use Firefox Mobile and ublock origin it will block ads on mobile
You’re not speaking to the teacher
@RobotZap10000 @Viri4thus you should teach the teacher…
When I watch YouTube on the Roku in my bedroom I see ads and it’s terrible. If I see a 30 second ad I go back and hit play again, usually I have to do that two or three times and then I get a 5-second skippable ad. Even then I’m often only two or three minutes into the video before it plays another ad.
Me neither, as I don’t use YouTube at all.
Ads?
Yeah, what the fuck is the article talking about? I haven’t seen an ad on YouTube in years.
Did u mean “tax for the poor and stupid”?
And yet they aggressively demonitize channels.
Line go up
I mean they don’t want to pay the creators thats abundantly clear.
Pro-tip: Watch youtube on firefox/etc with a bunch of ad blockers. No ads.
Ublock origin is enough :p
Sponsor block is a nice extra though
I just avoid channels with annoying sponsor segments, that has been a pretty good filter which also largely avoids clickbaity titles, since they seem to go hand in hand.
It really is a pro tip, when installing more than one ad blocker is just gonna make for a worse experience, never mind the fact that it’s going to make the ad blcokers themselves actually not work the way they’re supposed to.
