• RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social
      14·
      2 years ago

      Hey!

      We’re people who are masochists! :D
      (That said, I use Arch now … by the way 🤣Will probably switch back eventually. May try Funtoo? Hm. 🤷‍♀)

    • Venomnik0@lemmy.world
      4·
      2 years ago

      I’ve always found this take to be quite funny. You’re right but it is an incredible learning experience if you have the time for it. Otherwise, its incredibly stable and you can control any aspect. So I’d say more if you’re a masochist who’s also a sadist.

    • lemminer@lemmy.world
      42·
      2 years ago

      I find your outlook very misguided and arrogant.

      There are reasons why there are so many GNU Linux flavors. Developers of those flavors make choices on the behalf of user (which reminds me of windows). Gentoo doesn’t make decisions for you, but you make decisions for yourself.

      FOSS at its roots, is source. You are supposed to build all those softwares you use on your machine. All these pre built distro have given you convenience which you take for granted.

      Gentoo is definitely not for a person who can’t afford a beefy machine, and once you have all your softwares and dependencies compiled and ready, you really don’t have to go through that long process again.

      • merlin@open-source.social
        131·
        2 years ago

        FOSS isn’t about building from source though. It’s about making software accessible without restrictions on who uses it and how it’s used.

        By the way Gentoo is also giving you convenience compared to Slackware or building Linux from scratch.

        • MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world
          4·
          2 years ago

          Ah, Slackware is such a beast. No dependency management! I wonder how someone would run Gentoo/Slackware as a daily driver, maybe I’m too noob for this

          • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            11·
            2 years ago

            I haven’t run Slackware in two decades, but back then it was sort of like, install almost everything (A, AP,N, etc) at once, have your home on a different partition and nuke-reinstall every four months.

      • regeya@lemmy.world
        5·
        2 years ago

        No…the whole idea behind free software is that you can build from source and can even modify and contribute because it’s free. There’s no moral imperative to use CPU cycles and energy to do everything on your own computer.

        It is pretty cool that Gentoo’s Portage extends the Ports tree concept to the base operating system, though. I used to use it but at a certain point I decided it was too much of a time suck. I hopped around distros and nowadays use Arch. If I get tired of Arch, it’ll probably be Fedora unless they go the way of Ubuntu and Windows.

  • rodneyck@lemmy.world
    22·
    2 years ago

    Fake news! Gentoo would still be at the train station loading its cargo for at least a week.

  • itsJoelleScott@lemmy.world
    19·
    2 years ago

    Me, on Fedora, wondering when the wiretapping begins.

    (I’m hoping they step it back, else it’s Debian for me 🙃)

    • Synapse@lemmy.world
      14·
      2 years ago

      If that makes you feel better, the proposed telemetry as yet to be approved by the Fedora board and in all cases it would be opt-in (off by default). Debian is great and it has been my main for many years, but Fedora is more suitable for daily use thanks to its more frequent update schedule (my opinion). I would be sad to go back to Debian on my desktop and laptop :(

      • TCB13@lemmy.world
        7·
        2 years ago

        What’s your problem with Debian? Use Flatpack to get the latest version of your apps you should be okay.

        • Synapse@lemmy.world
          3·
          2 years ago

          Flatpak gnome? Flatpak mesa? Some core utilities are not that simple to upgrade. Why bother to fiddle with Backports and unstable repos when you get the fresh stuff out of the box with Fedora, without sacrificing on robustness?

          I switched to Fedora when I got myself a new AMD GPU after Doom eternal came out, and I was frustrated to miss out on some performance because of older mesa drivers. I would switch back now to Debian bookworm, it would probably not make a difference anymore as my hardware is several years old. Still I find the experience with Fedora to be smoother and well polished overall.

        • Venomnik0@lemmy.world
          2·
          2 years ago

          Isn’t the kernel much older over at Debian? So newer hardware will have struggles getting some things to work with Debian if unlucky.

          • TCB13@lemmy.world
            3·
            2 years ago

            Debian 12 is on longterm 6.1 kernel and 6.3 and 6.4 are the current stable versions. Frankly I never had issues with Debian’s kernel version, unless you have some very specific use case it shouldn’t affect you. Debian always goes for stability and security above the latest shinny thing that that’s precisely the reason it works so well.

            • Venomnik0@lemmy.world
              1·
              2 years ago

              Oh then im wrong then. I have specific end use case so I just assumed it was a much older kernel considering their conservative response towards GNOME and etc.

              • TCB13@lemmy.world
                1·
                2 years ago

                You aren’t technically wrong, Debian will be “stuck” with 6.1 for some time time now, but there’s also ways to have the latest kernel in Debian, most of them are about going for the unstable / backports repositories. The thing is that once you go that road you might lose stability comfort that Debian provides and that that point why not simply go with Arch?

      • addie@feddit.uk
        5·
        2 years ago

        Thin end of the wedge. It would obviously be opt-in, off by default, to start with. Then you swap that over for new installs, so that long-term users aren’t affected and don’t complain. Then you make it on by default for everyone, since most installs are on already and you might as well.

      • itsJoelleScott@lemmy.world
        3·
        2 years ago

        That’s what I hoping for, because it’s sick being nearly up to date while being so stable and user friendly at the same time.

  • kromem@lemmy.world
    15·
    2 years ago

    Gentoo was a lot of fun back in college. Broke a lot. Learned a lot.

    Now I use Fedora.

      • Elmiar@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 years ago

        Ayo, I didn’t mean to scold or curse anyone here. Please don’t misunderstand and if you’ve misunderstood me, I’m extremely sorry. It was like, there is this other train, smashing the train by saying " I use Gentoo" right? Similarly, another big destroyer or threat, falls upon both, Nd says the punch line. That’s what I intended to say. I didn’t had a meme template or patience to make a meme at the time. But, u see this enclosed picture. A similar thing I tried to recreate with a very very low effort.

        I’m sorry, of I have offended someone!