But what happened on that day was the fault of Hamas, there is no excuses.
Factually incorrect, the police investigations into the festival deaths show that the 1400 number is both wrong because they weren’t all civilians nor were all of them killed by Hamas.
Correct. No one is picking sides, Israel has a right to defend itself sure they don’t however have the right to kill ten times as many civilians and expell an entire populace they’ve been abusing for at least 30 years which is longer then the lifespan of most of the people being occupied. There is no burying the hatchet, it’s a holy war it stops when Israel has expelled Islam from the holy land as determined by both the talmud and bible as a prerequisite for for the end of days. It’s why majority Christian countries as well as countries that feel guilty about their treatment of Jews have been screeching about how Israel is totally justified in self defense though that clearly not what this is at this point.
Yes and a coordinated strike utilizing intelligence that could only be gained from an Israeli just so happened to make their long time existential threat a very much real age very much present threat. It’s really really convenient, he might lose his position in the government but one of his chosen will fill the seat and the damage will be done. I guarantee Israel takes Gaza as a security measure that will lead to annexation, it was a good plan horrific but very effective.
No one is picking sides, Israel has a right to defend itself sure they don’t however have the right to kill ten times as many civilians and expell an entire populace they’ve been abusing for at least 30 years
I have been very critical of Israel actions for many years. Check my history. The atrocities that Israel are responsible for are abhorrent. But two wrongs do not make a right.
I don’t care about what you’ve said outside of right here right now. You say it’s totally hamas’s fault, that’s just factually incorrect. You cannot judge this by limiting time scales, it all matters and it all has an effect on every other action.
No one said two wrongs make a right, you’re just conflating things.
I didn’t say that. I said isreali police are attributing deaths to the IDF essentially friendly firing and also stating that the publicized numbers are not correct because some of those casualties are idf not civilians and a fair number of those dressed as “civilians” without question are conscripts. The waters are muddy and Israel is doing nothing but stirring shit up with gross hyperbole and intentional civilian casualties they admit to.
Israel holds the narrative due to the wrong Hamas did. There is not really a lot Hamas can complain about. Israel is never going to make any efforts to put Hamas in a good light. I really do not see your point.
Israel won’t no, but they don’t have to, people like you and me are what cast the light that expells shadow not governments to think otherwise is absurd.
Bro hamas isn’t the one here that has to be the adult considering most gazans aren’t adults and most hamas fighters are barely barely adults generally sub 26yr old.
Factually incorrect, the police investigations into the festival deaths show that the 1400 number is both wrong because they weren’t all civilians nor were all of them killed by Hamas.
Correct. No one is picking sides, Israel has a right to defend itself sure they don’t however have the right to kill ten times as many civilians and expell an entire populace they’ve been abusing for at least 30 years which is longer then the lifespan of most of the people being occupied. There is no burying the hatchet, it’s a holy war it stops when Israel has expelled Islam from the holy land as determined by both the talmud and bible as a prerequisite for for the end of days. It’s why majority Christian countries as well as countries that feel guilty about their treatment of Jews have been screeching about how Israel is totally justified in self defense though that clearly not what this is at this point.
Yes and a coordinated strike utilizing intelligence that could only be gained from an Israeli just so happened to make their long time existential threat a very much real age very much present threat. It’s really really convenient, he might lose his position in the government but one of his chosen will fill the seat and the damage will be done. I guarantee Israel takes Gaza as a security measure that will lead to annexation, it was a good plan horrific but very effective.
I have been very critical of Israel actions for many years. Check my history. The atrocities that Israel are responsible for are abhorrent. But two wrongs do not make a right.
I don’t care about what you’ve said outside of right here right now. You say it’s totally hamas’s fault, that’s just factually incorrect. You cannot judge this by limiting time scales, it all matters and it all has an effect on every other action.
No one said two wrongs make a right, you’re just conflating things.
No I said that particular event is the fault of Hamas. Please don’t misquote me to peddle a narrative.
I’m talking about this specific incident as well, it is factually not all Hamas fault. I just said this directly.
So you are saying the IDF deliberately targeted civilians during the massacre?
I didn’t say that. I said isreali police are attributing deaths to the IDF essentially friendly firing and also stating that the publicized numbers are not correct because some of those casualties are idf not civilians and a fair number of those dressed as “civilians” without question are conscripts. The waters are muddy and Israel is doing nothing but stirring shit up with gross hyperbole and intentional civilian casualties they admit to.
Israel holds the narrative due to the wrong Hamas did. There is not really a lot Hamas can complain about. Israel is never going to make any efforts to put Hamas in a good light. I really do not see your point.
Israel won’t no, but they don’t have to, people like you and me are what cast the light that expells shadow not governments to think otherwise is absurd.
Bro hamas isn’t the one here that has to be the adult considering most gazans aren’t adults and most hamas fighters are barely barely adults generally sub 26yr old.