• massive_bereavement@kbin.social
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    Be careful with that statement because that’s what Oil is pushing now:

    • They changed the “climate change ain’t real” to the “climate change ain’t bad” and later into the “it’s too late, let’s enjoy it while it lasts” message.

    The goal is ensuring people do not require action from their political representatives, be it by ignorance or by resigning.

    The other prong of attack is blaming consumers/individuals. This is useful for them as it keeps those that want action busy (recycling, planting trees, using bikes, buying EVs or using trains, avoiding plastic, etc.) and shifts blame on to the rest.
    Not that any of those actions are bad, but aren’t at the core of the problem, like blaming someone for wasting water for taking a shower while you have an olympic pool.

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220504-why-the-wrong-people-are-blamed-for-climate-change
    https://www.yesmagazine.org/environment/2022/01/31/climate-change-fossil-fuel-industry-individual-responsibility
    Climate Town - The Troll Army of Big Oil

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      You know what is also harmful propaganda?
      To shift the entire blame on some faceless companies or politicians, or “rich people”, ignoring that you’re part of the rich people on this planet. You all are the people those companies produce their shit for. You all are the people who vote the people responsible for their inaction into power. You all are who shun and ridicule all the green parties, politicians and activists.

      You can continue to do that, but you only do it so you can continue to drive your cars, to continue to buy cheap products from countries like China, to continue to consume highly polluting animal produce on a daily basis, to continue to uphold your lavish lifestyle while actual poor people have fuck all (including barely any emissions).

      Your type of comment is nothing but greenwashing too and I’d not be surprised if some leaks in a few years come out that will back up the fact that oil companies were pushing for that too.

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      So what I happen to have the same stance as the oil industry?

      I consistently try to vote against politics who are not doing anything for the environment.

      I didn’t vote initially for Macron because he barely does anything for the environment but then I had to choose between Marine Le Pen (far right and often considered as racist) or Macron. Both of them really bad to fight against climate change.

      In my country at least, you only have an illusion of democracy with our current system. And Macron works only on announcement that they carefully draw back a few months later when they already have benefited from the political gains of announcing yet another ambitious climate plan.

      Maybe the oil industry says this is lost because they know they control fully the politics in power.

      Again, I do as much on my level and I’m about to embark in a 10h train journey across France to avoid taking a 2h flight. I’m trying. I’m just saying we are delaying the inevitable which is on its own already a good thing.

      But this mechanically cannot work. Our president is elected for 5 years and has no reason to lose votes for something that will be an issue for the next generations. And we cannot elect people who care about the environment because the populist far right parties are too strong right now and gathering support through xenophobia and racism.

      Do your best for the environment but just keep in mind that we need to prepare for the worst for the next generations. I think we are doing a disservice to them to tell them we are actively trying to fix climate change when the CO2 emissions are very clearly increasing.

      Oil subsidies have never been higher. It’s fucked up.