Marine Capitol rioter gets 1 hour of community service for each of 279 Marine Civil War casualties

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      Nope, and the military often let’s civilian court go first, just in case there’s lax sentencing like this.

      I knew a guy who was drunk and “sure” a gun wasn’t loaded, so he pointed it his riends head, and blew his brains out.

      When I lost touch, he had been waiting for the civilian court case for almost a year and still in the military, but they were making his life hell in the meantime.

      They were just waiting on the civilian ruling before doing their own and sending him to Leavenworth for it.

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    Man I’ll tell you what, I got OTH discharge from the Navy for a WHOLE LOT LESS. What a fucking joke. Fuck this

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      I think it’s five years later you can appeal, and almost all of them get approved.

      Like, if you got a DUI or popped on a drug test, you can probably get it changed. It’s a small hassle, but there’s no reason not to fill out the paperwork

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      He’ll be heading to Leavenworth shortly. The military always lets civilian courts go first, specifically to ensure that service members don’t get off lightly.

      This is like the $150 fine that the Commonwealth of KY will fine you if you detonate a nuclear device within city limits. They’re just getting the pennies they think they might get out of you when the federal government is done with you.

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    “Hellonen, Coomer and Abate pleaded guilty earlier this year to parading, demonstrating or picketing in a Capitol building, a misdemeanor punishable by a maximum of six months behind bars. Hundreds of Capitol rioters have pleaded guilty to the same charge, which is akin to trespassing.” They got off way too easy for violating their oath.

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      “None of them is accused of engaging in any violence or destruction on Jan. 6. But prosecutors said none of them has expressed sincere remorse for their crimes.”

      “Coomer bragged on social media about taking part in ‘history,’ called for a ‘fresh start’ and said he was ‘waiting for the boogaloo,’ a slang term for a second civil war in the U.S.”

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        The court martial he’s going to have is entirely separate from civilian legal proceedings. And I expect the presiding officers are going to absolutely throw the book at him, if for no other reason than to set a graphic example.

        And if they don’t, we’ll know a bit more about the dangerous personal politics of some officers in the Marines.

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      They haven’t been in front of a court martial, yet. The military waits for civilian court to do their thing, before throwing people in Leavenworth.

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    Now that he’s been found guilty, I hope that he receives a dishonorable discharge.

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    Why the hell are these traitors still in the Marine Corps?

    Dishonorably discharge them and cancel all their benefits already.

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      I believe they were also dishonorably discharged IIRC from the last time I saw this. I very well may be wrong though.

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        I heard other than honorable but again hearsay. Would prefer dishonorable

        “As of Friday, all three Marines were still on active-duty status, according to the Marine Corps. But all three could be separated from the Marine Corps “on less than honorable conditions,” prosecutors said.”

        Doesn’t say for sure but that’s a exerpt from the article

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    I’m confused. Why did the judge use such a weird frame of reference for the sentence? How can you use casualties from one branch of the military, in a war over a century ago, for a case today? Seems entirely arbitrary and out of context.

    Like, we don’t sentence thieves in 2023 based on how many boxes of tea were destroyed during the Boston Tea Party.

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    So how much for betraying your country, your corps and the oath that you made when you joined?

    Well let’s hope next time nobody joins out of fear of 34 days of community service.

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      The Marines I know don’t seem to mind at all, they relish it.

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        Have they been to war yet tho? Have they seen their squadmates dead bodies?

        I was Navy and on a marine transport ship. The ones who hadn’t been deployed yet were gunho and annoying as shit. Like young puppies.

        The ones who had actually seen shit, were a lot more rational and disillusioned.

        Don’t underestimate the brainwashing of the military, especially for exclusive stuff, it takes a while to get that out of your head after training.

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          The Marines I know that saw combat are often messed up with PTSD and feel lost without their units, but still seem very proud to have been Marines.

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            feel lost without their units

            As the full saying goes, the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. Soldiers being through shit and wanting to stick together afterwards is a trait as old as warfare itself.

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            to have been Marines

            Yeah, it’s completely normal to put on rose colored glasses years later…

            That’s entirely different than seeing it and still being in.