• Psythik@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    You’re not wrong. I’ve seen all this before. We always give up and go home eventually. It’s the American way.

    Remember the BLM protests and their “5 demands”? They tried to copy the Hong Kong protests, but unlike Hong Kong they couldn’t even last more than a few days before giving up. Not a single demand was met.

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      Calling the elephant in the room on this with what I hope is a valid explanation.

      America has no principals therefore any movement peters out without any resolution. This is because America is a diaspora of so many different cultures and beliefs and the only prevailing truth is “I got mine”. It’s nothing to base life on. America has no identity outside of money.

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        America has no principals therefore any movement peters out without any resolution.

        I think this is very true. However, I don’t think it’s wholly unique to the US. Canada’s idea of being a “mosaic” is also based upon multi-culturalism and I don’t think that the entirety of the country holds that as a principle either.

        America has no identity outside of money.

        This is also a true statement. We used to hold other values until every organization that trumpeted them also turned toward the all-mighty dollar (including – and in a lot of ways led by – religion).

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          Canada is different and it’s nuanced and hard to explain. If you have time I recommend you look into the ideas of John Ralston Saul he explains very well how Canada differs from America and a lot of it is how everyone here is allowed to be themselves. As you said Canada is a Mosaic not a Melting Pot. That’s a large part of what defines our success.

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        Yeah, spot on. If you try to do some of the most basic decent stuff for the people around us, like make sure the next generation of developing american brains gets adequate nutrition, the first response from half the country is yelling “BUT WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT?”

        There are many examples of, and there will be many more, a rich dude complaining that some life-protecting regulation “stifles innovation” or “slows economic growth” so we throw a bunch of people under the bus (probably literally in a few cases) so that a few people with more money than they will ever spend can watch their balance go up by 8% next year instead of 7%. And some of us plebs lucky enough to have a 401k will probably get a whole extra dollar or two.