• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    Trump signed an executive order on February 4 just before meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, whose country has long accused both UNHRC and the Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) of bias against Israel and antisemitism.

    Biden already cut off funding to UNRWA based on Israeli propaganda and then refused to reinstate aid once it was proven the Israeli propaganda wasn’t factual…

    Biden did rejoin the UNHRC, he just ignored everything they said about Israel’s genocide and how American weapons were being used in it.

    So it’s bad trump does this shit, but it was bad before trump took office too.

    Which is why trump is back: Dem leadership will do whatever they want and if we don’t like it that’s our fault.

    It’s like being a battered spouse, where you get blamed for getting beat by the cops, and then beat even worse when they leave you with the abuser.

    Technically, not trying to call the cops would have resulted in less beatings, but anyone who tries to convince you that it’s your fault and not the abusers…

    Well, abusers stick together, a good person doesn’t victim blame.

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      Trump could start WW3 and you’d find a way to blame the Dems.

      What’s your alternative to the Dems?

      Some magical army that is going to appear when things get bad enough?

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        What’s your alternative to the Dems?

        Better Dems…

        Why do you think the baby needs thrown out with the bathwater?

        If our only standard is the letter by a name, that’s going to end up with us being represented by people we do t agree with.

        That hurts Dem turnout.

        That lets republicans have political power.

        I just don’t get why “Dems should run candidates dem voters agree with” is always treated as some crazy idea and it would destroy the party.

        Like, why change every voter instead of changing the politicians?

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          It’s not a crazy idea, or at least it wasn’t.

          What’s a crazy idea is thinking that the dems running better candidates is relevant after ushering in fascism.

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            Plan A, B, and C.

            Never just have one plan.

            Never give up on an option till it’s truly ruled out. And never solely focus on a single option at a time.

            If Biden had followed that millenia old advice, we’d be in a better position. But just because he didn’t, doesn’t mean we shouldn’t as well.

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        It’s not “the Dems”, it’s the Dem leadership, promoted by seniority and internal politicking and donor relations rather than an interest in competently representing the left-of-center half of the US political landscape.

        This isn’t a whatabout about Biden doing some other bad shit. It’s pointing out that he already did exactly the stuff we’re now going to (rightfully) condemn Trump for. This stuff is important now, but it also was important when everyone was making excuses for why it was fine. And now, when there isn’t even the threat of an impending election, it’s still verboten to say that a lot of our leaders are old and bad and even evil.

        We need to be able to criticize those leaders, because they’ve been failing for years and just failed so spectacularly we don’t know if there’s going to be a free and fair election next time. None of them are willing to fall on a sword for it, none of them want to change any of the systems, and none of them are rising to this moment when we desperately need leadership. Gerry Connolly should not be our top rep on oversight. Chuck Schumer should not be leading the Senate. And now that the election is over and there’s no benefit to the fake support we should be willing to say Joe Biden was a bad leader.

        Because if we don’t, they’re not going to fix themselves. We need to be angry and demand they stop playing the same old game that ends up with barely coherent elderly leaders imagining some masterstroke of triangulation saving the day. Centrism and gerontocracy and putting donors first failed us and saying “good try champ, you’ll get 'em next time” isn’t going to get us out of it.

        It’s not about finding an alternative to the Democrats. It’s about pushing good Democrats to the front rather than coasting along on a system designed by and benefitting the ones that failed us. Remember the last time a Democrat won on message and talent rather than connections (Obama)? Now I have disappointments from him along the way, but he at least led with a message of principles and hope delivered by someone that seemed to care rather than just think ruling was his right. At least that felt like the Democratic party was fighting for something that people wanted, rather than the result of an incomprehensible machine turning at the beliefs and whims of people who have been within it for 40 years.

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          There are primary elections coming up for all of congress and a third of the Senate.

          Start working for your chosen candidate now.

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            There are primary elections

            Right…

            Are you saying your happy with the level of primary we got last election?

            You think the DNC declaring it over before states that vote reaches double digits is enough?

            Because if it was, we wouldn’t be talking about how to get trump out of office right now.

            We tried forcing a candidate more conservative than Dem voters want, and it failed.

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              Look up Jerry Falwell and his Moral Majority.

              Jerry decided he wanted to run the GOP so he went out and organized.

              If a town’s GOP club had had twenty people show up to pick tghe candidate for clerk, Jerry’s chruch folk would show up with fifty.

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                Jerry Falwell and his Moral Majority.

                What does Republican primaries almost 50 years ago for county seats have to do with the 2024 Dem presidential primary?

                Do you honestly think those are the same?

                There’s a whole lot to unpack here, so I want to see where we’re starting from.

                1. Are you aware parties aren’t bound by primaries and can legally run anyone they want in a general?

                2. Are you aware a county clerk seat is different than US president?

                3. Are you aware that things have changed since 1979?