The Canadian government has insisted that information on domestic goods is readily available to all trading partners, even including nations that recently elected a felony-convicted game show host to be their head of state. Instead, the United States has decided to employ a rarely-chosen trade tactic that international economists refer to as the “fuck around and find out” model.
you can’t get out of it this time. he won the popular vote. not voting is voting.
He didn’t win, vote-suppression won.
Besides you could argue the non-vote were the more popular choice because people are fed up with FPTP-voting.
that’s not an unknown. vote suppression has always been a thing. especially dem voters know this. I’m not talking about the voters; I’m talking about non voters. you don’t show up, you vote for whoever comes up. vote suppression did not suppress 86 million votes.
I didn’t claim it did, people can protest vote however they wish.
and accept the consequences. this is the result of their protest votes. enjoy.
It’s funny that you got upvoted for saying the same thing that got me downvoted
We still own this as a country. Any other attitude risks not making the necessary changes to prevent this in the future.
I voted.
that’s good on your part, but you’re not the American people. the people voted for mango mussolini, and that’s exactly what they got. in elections past I would agree with you. but not this time.
Same sentiment here.
First time, maybe people weren’t paying attention, maybe they wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe they really hated the Clinton dynasty, and to be fair he lost the popular vote by millions. Ok, you guys got screwed, learn the lesson and move on.
Second time, there was all the precedent: disastrous covid handling (hundreds of thousands of excess deaths), ruined economy, absolute international clown show, hiring his family, all the golf (at his properties), racism, sharpies, crowd sizes, all the testimonials of his incompetence from anyone working with him, his own VP not endorsing him… And the crimes. And the treason. And the porn star. And Project 2025. And not only he won again, but this time he got the popular vote. The American people made their bed, and instead of pillows they used a face eating leopard.
Winning the popular vote doesn’t mean everyone voted for him. Besides, realistically he didn’t even do that.
I guess you missed the part where OP wrote “NOT VOTING IS VOTING”.
In the 2020 election, 81,283,501 people voted for Biden while 74,223,975 voted for Trump.
In the 2024 election, 75,017,613 voted for Harris, while 77,302,580 voted for Trump.
Thata 155,507,476 - 152,230,193 = 3,187,283 fewer people voting.
Biden got 81.2m votes vs Harris getting 75m votes… in other words, people who showed up to vote for Biden in 2020 sat out and didn’t vote in 2024, which directly resulted in Trump winning.
Not voting is voting, get it now?
I commented saying that I don’t think Trump got 77,302,580 votes. Get it now? Bringing up Bidens and Harris’s vote count is irrelevant.
are you claiming election fraud?
that’s ridiculous but either way you’re missing the point.
he got more than 77 million votes. close to 86 million people didn’t vote. like it or not, that’s still 86 million votes.
not voting isn’t a way to say “I don’t like either one”, it says “I’m on board with whoever wins by people who actually show up”. so that’s a vote for mango mussolini. would’ve been for Harris if that 1.6% margin swung the other way, but it didn’t.
so essentially he got the stamp of approval of around 160 million people.
Kinda, yeah. The conversation was that we don’t get to complain because “everyone” voted for Trump. Basically implying that all of America wanted this. I just expressed my doubt that the candidate with a history of election fraud got the numbers that are claimed. More importantly though, there were still plenty of people who did not vote for Trump and are upset about current events.
Did lots of people sit out the election in protest, yes. Did lots of people move changing the demographics of certain areas over the past few years, yes. Nothing changes the fact that he has more followers in high places than he did during his 1st term. I remember Trump wanting to find 11,000 votes last election. How many did he find this time with more support?
I’m getting downvoted for essentially saying “I didn’t vote for any of this and Trump probably cheated anyways since he has a history of it now” in response to you saying that there is no difference between the will of ALL of the American people and the Commander in Cheese and I think that’s hilarious. Apparently being American means being pro Trump now, no matter what. Trump didn’t need evidence or facts when he claimed election fraud back in May 2020 months before the election even started. So why are you asking me for receipts, this is a vibes based reality we live in now. Trump saved California from the fire but all the big cities are still being burned by criminals and immigrants right. At least that’s what the news and Trump are reporting.
no one said all, or everyone. some people claim the American people didn’t want this. in a democracy the will of the people is determined by the majority of the voting-eligible population. around 160 million people wanted this. that’s a very solid representative bunch.
even if they did election fraud, which is completely speculative copium with no evidence whatsoever, but even if he did, he sure as fuck couldn’t fake 80-90 million votes. you want to prevent someone winning by fudging a couple thousand votes here and there, you show up.
the fact remains: 70+ million people voted for him, and 80+ million more were fine with him. that’s a huge majority that can’t be explained away with fraud.
You did.
That was the whole point of your first reply in this thread. Top comment is literally a comment saying this is the will of the president and not the people. You responded with “that’s wrong, they’re the same thing” like they are magically the same just because he won. Basically saying that regardless of who they voted for, this is what they voted for. Because that’s how democracy works right. You are the one saying that our votes/voices don’t matter just because Trump won. Rebuplicans famously disagree with any democratic president and their policies so I don’t understand why I have to agree with a republican one. Someone else then came in and started spitting out numbers like that was the conversation. It wasn’t.
Trump and his cronies lost everytime they ran on a Project 2025 platform, so much so that Trump even distanced himself. When that didn’t work he went to the classics, his greatest hits. And now that he’s in the White House we have slowly watched him back track on some of his promises. Angering/disappointing some of his base in the process.
But getting back on track,
lol tariffs aren’t gonna hurt Americans…
quote me then. and not fake quote me like a bitch as you did right there either where you imagined I said “they’re the same thing” and tried to will it into existence so your shitty arguments sound more reasonable.
the rest of your comment is from a fever I can only presume because it has nothing to do with my point.
the original comment said that this was not the will of the people and I said yes it is. this was a laid out plan, and even if he distanced himself (as if anyone would believe him) his own promises weren’t different at all. he literally said he wanted to be a dictator day one. deport 20 million. end diversity. and the majority of the people voted for him. 160 million stamps of approval. that’s the will of the American people by a significant margin. that’s how it’s determined. it doesn’t mean every single person.