The Canadian government has insisted that information on domestic goods is readily available to all trading partners, even including nations that recently elected a felony-convicted game show host to be their head of state. Instead, the United States has decided to employ a rarely-chosen trade tactic that international economists refer to as the “fuck around and find out” model.
no one said all, or everyone. some people claim the American people didn’t want this. in a democracy the will of the people is determined by the majority of the voting-eligible population. around 160 million people wanted this. that’s a very solid representative bunch.
even if they did election fraud, which is completely speculative copium with no evidence whatsoever, but even if he did, he sure as fuck couldn’t fake 80-90 million votes. you want to prevent someone winning by fudging a couple thousand votes here and there, you show up.
the fact remains: 70+ million people voted for him, and 80+ million more were fine with him. that’s a huge majority that can’t be explained away with fraud.
You did.
That was the whole point of your first reply in this thread. Top comment is literally a comment saying this is the will of the president and not the people. You responded with “that’s wrong, they’re the same thing” like they are magically the same just because he won. Basically saying that regardless of who they voted for, this is what they voted for. Because that’s how democracy works right. You are the one saying that our votes/voices don’t matter just because Trump won. Rebuplicans famously disagree with any democratic president and their policies so I don’t understand why I have to agree with a republican one. Someone else then came in and started spitting out numbers like that was the conversation. It wasn’t.
Trump and his cronies lost everytime they ran on a Project 2025 platform, so much so that Trump even distanced himself. When that didn’t work he went to the classics, his greatest hits. And now that he’s in the White House we have slowly watched him back track on some of his promises. Angering/disappointing some of his base in the process.
But getting back on track,
lol tariffs aren’t gonna hurt Americans…
quote me then. and not fake quote me like a bitch as you did right there either where you imagined I said “they’re the same thing” and tried to will it into existence so your shitty arguments sound more reasonable.
the rest of your comment is from a fever I can only presume because it has nothing to do with my point.
the original comment said that this was not the will of the people and I said yes it is. this was a laid out plan, and even if he distanced himself (as if anyone would believe him) his own promises weren’t different at all. he literally said he wanted to be a dictator day one. deport 20 million. end diversity. and the majority of the people voted for him. 160 million stamps of approval. that’s the will of the American people by a significant margin. that’s how it’s determined. it doesn’t mean every single person.
Here’s your exact quote:
you can’t get out of it this time. he won the popular vote. not voting is voting.
So these tariffs are the will of the people or the will of the president? In your comment, you “scolded/teased/attacked” someone for saying that there is a difference. Your argument is that “the people”, ie everyone, blindly accepted and approved of whatever idiotic policy simply because Trump won the popular vote. I don’t accept that.
I’m sorry but that’s just not how democracy works. Remember let’s go Brandon, remember #notmypresident, remember those “I did that” stickers, clearly this goes both ways. Being a democracy means that there is supposed to be some middle ground, some compromise, as well as room for dissent. Trump doesn’t do that, we are watching democracy die in real time and you think that this is what the American people want. Some, sure. But not all. I thought the dictator was supposed to be the guy in the White House, not some random little bitch in the comments section of one of the smallest social media platforms on earth crying that the the popular vote doesn’t allow for anyone to disagree with the president.
I’m the one agreeing with the guy that said these tariffs are solely the presidents fault and idea. You are the one saying they are the American peoples fault and idea because Trump won the popular vote. Am I missing something here?
both. this wasn’t a surprise. he said he’s gonna do it and 160 million people said “go ahead”.
“the people” does not mean everyone. in a democracy the will of the people is determined by the majority. it feels like the 97th time I’m saying this but here you go maybe it goes through this time. must be interference.
yes it’s exactly how democracy works. whoever gets the most votes gets to represent the people’s will. if he had lied about it during the campaign like he lies about pretty much everything I would’ve said yeah this isn’t what the people wanted, he did a bait and switch. but he didn’t. he said he’s gonna do tariffs and be a dictator on day 1, and 160 million people said ok be our lord king please.
not all, again literally no one said that, but certainly not “some”. 160 million of the eligible voters. that’s 68%. it’s a landslide.
I see where the confusion is. It’s 2 things:
Tariffs were originally sold as being for China and any company that threatened to take production outside our borders in order to stimulate the US economy while not harming the average American…wild applause. But also lies. He is now adding tariffs to anyone(countries) that annoys him. He altered the deal, let us pray he doesn’t alter it further. Spoiler, he will. Nobody wanted this. Canada tariffs aren’t a thing before last week, AFTER he was elected. Didn’t really uphold the campaign promise if he never made it. At least we agree that he isn’t the type of person to keep a promise anyway. That’s why there is an article on the community for THEONION…
The only reason I jumped in this thread was because you “attacked” someone for saying that the American citizens didn’t want or vote for any of this, or is that my fever dream again. So by your logic EVERYONE has to agree with Trumps decision because YOU don’t allow for anyone to disagree with Trump and calling that democracy. Why, because he won the popular vote? Again, you “attack” those that disagree with your POV. You are right, you didn’t say everyone voted for Trump but you also don’t think it matters that people have disagreements with his actions/policies/rhetoric/ramblings(because at this point they are the same thing) because like you said “you can’t get out of it this time” as if we, the people that DIDN’T vote for him, are responsible.
A big factor that lead to Trump winning was because of all of the minority support, not just the protest non-votes. Don’t forget the voter suppression, or my personal favorite election fraud. Minorities, specifically Latinos, are already the first to protest on any significant scale, not that it matters. LGBTQ is probably next in size. As more time passes and he continues to fuck over the American people, and ultimately the world, I see that popularity starting to wane. Especially after he starts firing more people and runs out of people to blame for everything hitting the fan. Buyers remorse is real. Not that it matters with all of the talk about having voting fixed so good for the next election. We couldn’t stop him as an ordinary citizen, what the fuck makes you think we can stop him as “lord king” even with your precious popular vote.