• mhague@lemmy.world
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    Ads have started to straight up break the internet for me. I can go to websites and they’ll complain about my ad blocker, and the only help I get is “disable your extensions.” I don’t even have any extensions! No ad block! But sites still curl up and die on me.

    Is it because my browser is hardened? Is it Linux? Do I have to fork over private data to use a site and if I don’t they pretend the issue is ad blockers?

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      Well, Google sure is trying to take us in the direction of “you have to log in to Chrome to use the internet”.

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    Why paying for no longer having an ad free experience, if you can have a really ad free YouTube for free?

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    Ngl, I run Firefox and the usual suite of adblockers and haven’t experienced any issues. I do the same on my phone (Firefox in “desktop mode”).

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    I didn’t use adblockers when they had occasional normal ad breaks. Now when I have to watch on a TV app its just a garbage experience.

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    YouTube is a monopoly. The reason no one really uses multiple platforms to upload videos at the same level as YouTube is because it was run for a long time at a lose to push out all competition. I have no simpthy.

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    Supporting the creators, yeah, because thats what Google built their empire on top of.

    Caring about people.

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      Most creaters (even smaller ones) doesn’t care about revunue (YT creaters get paid if they’re in YPP) loss from adblockers and lm pretty sure YouTubers also use adblock instead of paying Premium

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      Actually the premium user is worth more to creators because a premium user gives them a bigger slice than ad users.

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      IIRC that was specifically related to YouTube testing out a new Premium tier that allowed some ads, but also cost less, and only in specific markets.

      Not everywhere, and not regular Premium subscriptions, unlike how most posts try to make it sound, including yours. But don’t let the facts get in the way.

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        Were they testing those ads on users that paid for an ad free premium or were they testing on users that bought a lower tier?

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          Don’t know, the couple of articles I saw going around didn’t actually have any actual info in them, just the report by a random person in Germany which is one of the Premium Lite (or whatever they want to call it) regions.

          I don’t really care that much to be honest. I pay for YouTube Premium. My region doesn’t have a Lite option. I pay for several reasons, not just the lack of ads. I pay so the content creators I watch get paid more for my view. I pay for no ads. I pay for the bundled YouTube Music. All of those are part of my usage. The lack of ads is only one aspect. For others that may be different, and for them the price justification may be different as well if they’re only paying to remove ads.

          Not to mention that partial ad experiences at a lower cost are an inevitable middle option to regular ad and no-ad options. YouTube isn’t anywhere near the first to do this, and they definitely won’t be the last. Complaining about it will do absolutely nothing, they don’t give a shit and the only people that could force a change are shareholders, who only care about profits at this point. Customer satisfaction for a company like Google means fucking nothing.

          So why expend the energy? That can be focused elsewhere to much more effect.

      • IIRC that was specifically related to YouTube testing out a new Premium tier that allowed some ads, but also cost less, and only in specific markets.

        Not everywhere, and not regular Premium subscriptions

        …for now.

        Let’s keep that in mind.

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        They might be referring to people who have it occur due to a technical problem (needing to clear their cache or something). Other than that, tons of my friends and coworkers have Premium and they’ve never complained of ads, so I don’t think it’s a normal thing that occurs frequently.

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          I believe they’re trying out different tiers of premium in certain regions (not the US). Lower tier premium has ads.

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          Lol why are you getting down voted? Jeez lemmy users are sensitive about paying for an entertainment service.

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            Youtube has been free for so long that people forget that hosting all those videos costs money. They’ll pay for so many streaming services but if you make Youtube anything but a free, ad-free paradise they lose it.

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              I guess. I never had nor will ever pay for premium, but isn’t there premium content? How’s that any different than paying for patreon videos of content creators? YouTube just consolidated it.

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                There’s premium content, no ads, the creator gets paid significantly more for your Premium view, and bundled YouTube Music.

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    I will not use youtube and use ads. The sooner they break my adblocker, the sooner i won’t be on their platform

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      I really don’t think they understand this… If an ad starts playing on YouTube I just turn it off and see why my ad blocker isn’t working. If it doesn’t work I simply don’t watch the video. I had no desire to switch to Firefox because Chrome was just working for me, but then it didn’t work. There’s no way in hell I’m sitting here with my adhd addled brain, with my 4 year old phone in my hands watching for 30 seconds why I need a brand new acura.

      The only time I’ve ever willingly watched an ad was tiktok. Because they know I can simply swipe and skip it, but sometimes the sponsored content is creative and entertaining.

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        They do understand it. They just believe the number of people who will do it are small enough to be worth it.

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          I guess. And you might be right. But the end goal of enshittifying everything is going to bottle out into unusable tech and the death of innovation.

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          And sadly, they’re probably right. Just look at how many people are willing to sit there mindlessly absorbing messages from their corporate masters.

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        You’re part of less than 10% of the people watching YouTube, and you’re in a 10% they won’t care about because you aren’t making them money anyhow.

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        google just made it so ad blockers using their engine will not work the same… probably why it was working fine then it didn’t