• Hot Saucerman@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Did… did I say they couldn’t? I think this continues to be a misunderstanding of what socialists believe.

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      1 year ago

      So ah… What’s the issue then? You can have what you want under capitalism. Attacking the system is forcing your own on others. This is unironically what makes socialism unpopular in the context of history.

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        1 year ago

        They said it in the first comment

        they hate workers not having any power or democratic choice in how they interact in the market

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          1 year ago

          The western left doesn’t agree on one form of socialism to align around so it is both impossible to criticize with any specificity and serves as a catch-all in opposition to the current system. It breaks down when they suddenly have to align on specific policies.

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            1 year ago

            That’s a good thing; socialism is a fledgling idea. It needs discoure and experimentation. The attack that lack of exact details and perfect cohesion is an empty one.

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              1 year ago

              Wanting to burn down the system without a coherent and specific approach to replace it only hurts people.

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                1 year ago

                How do you feel about Bernie or AOC, they are the system and aren’t trying to burn it down. They just want to fix the system.