One of the instance that is promoted on join-lemmy.org is burggit.moe that is defined as “NSFW & Loli/Shota/Cub friendly”. Loli is legally considered as paedophilia in europe and the US, so even if it’s legal in the country that host the instance, I would suggest to not promote it as an instance to join
This is what the rules of that instance say:
- No illegal content under Netherlands law
- No content involving junior idols, child models, or anyone under the age of 18 in revealing clothing, questionable poses, or questionable situations
I also dont see any pedophelia on the frontpage. If you do, try contacting the admin to remove it. Of course you are free to block it from your own instance, but its a really flimsy reason to delist it from joinlemmy.
I think morally and optically speaking, anything that endorses Loli or Shota is disgusting. On the basis of them saying they are “friendly” to that type of content, they should be delisted, regardless of if you see it as soon as you login or not.
There should be easy way to reach admin to admin :)
No, I’m not going to look on the frontpage if they really publish the content they say they publish
Isn’t loli using child models though? I thought that was the whole point of loli/shota/whatever the fuck else they want to call it?
It’s just young child models but they are x hundred years old, no?
Of course you don’t see any problems. You don’t give a damn about moderating, you only care about militant rights of folks to say whatever the hell they want to say about anything regardless of the impact it has on anyone else.
It’s not that person’s job to moderate that instance. You seem confused. Block it.
I don’t think it’s true that such things are illegal in the US at least, but yes, this one should be delisted.
If I recall correctly, as long as you can tell it’s not real it’s legal. But it’s still gross. It’ll be the first server that my instance is defederating.
Loli is legally considered as paedophilia in europe and the US
It isn’t though. Legally there’s nothing to be done about it. Defederation and blocking it from the main list is certainly advisable, though.
I may be mistaken for the USA, but it is in many EU countries
This just came up on my feed and i blocked the community, lemmy instances should defederate from them
You are “wondering”? Your instance should block the instance immediately. It’s in fact a good test. The best setting would be to federate with no one by default.
Sorry yeah, wondering was probably the wrong phrasing on my end ill edit my first comment
On Mastodon this kind of heads up are called #FediBlock and it’s useful to decide to block problematic instances together
It is also blocked on feddit.de
Is there anywhere i can see what instances are blocked from a particular instance? nvm: just found it
Can you link for the rest of us?
Deleted my comment but i guess you can still see it?. https://sopuli.xyz/instances, is where it was for my instance, seems like its just “yourinstance.com”/instances
good catch! Maybe we have enough content for a community around lemmy moderation? FediBlock like, something like that.
The devs certainly won’t. The main instance doesn’t get moderated… regrettably Lemmy doesn’t have the dev and community support that the other federated tools do.
You can check the mod logs, they are public and there’s a link to them at the bottom of every page. I have certainly seen the mods of lemmy.ml giving out temp and permabans for rule-breaking behavior. I have even seen them hand out lengthy (4-5 day temp bans) to users who seem to post content that is much more closely aligned to the lemmy.ml admins world views than the other party in the conversation leading to the ban. I think the accusations you’re making here are pretty off base.
https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/burggit.moe
"countryname": "Netherlands", "lat": "52.352", "long": "4.9392",Yeah wow that was way further up the list than I thought
A bit of social media history on this topic. Since Reddit is the big topic this month much like Twitter was 6 months ago…
10+ years ago, Reddit was a place that had communities like that for years. CNN story from 2012: https://www.cnn.com/2012/10/18/us/internet-troll-apology/index.html
Back then, 800,000 subscribers to community/subreddit, those were big numbers. It was part of what made Reddit what it is today, starting out with communities that Facebook wouldn’t allow. The owners of Reddit even gave that guy an award: Reddit gave him an award – a gold-plated bobblehead doll “for making significant contributions to the site.”
What seemed to shut it down more than anything was loss of anonymous usernames (the guy who created the subreddits got fired from his job). Today in 2023, it would probably be more like governments (hard to say, as the CNN story doesn’t say they found evidence of illegal images)?
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This is not true. Of course join-lemmy.org can hide instances from the list and is AFAIK doing so already.
Yup, there’s no way they can’t just hide specific instances from the list. And they really should. The only explicitly NSFW instance being an explicitly pedo instance is a really bad look. Exactly the wrong kind of early reddit vibes.
Yeah they can, so my guess would be they just don’t check everything that shows up (at least if it’s not at the top) and hopefully once this comes to their attention it’ll be promptly removed
AFAIK you just add your instance to the list via git pull request, and then it’s sorted based on activity. You cna absolutely screen instances, by reviewing pull requests.
But that takes labour, and people are also pushing for the devs to work on the actual server and client softwares, and their instance is overloaded, and…
This is what happens to small projects, whether they be software or anything else, when they suddenly get a lot of attention. Pace accelerates, but the amount of available labour hours doesn’t increase at nearly the same rate.
Then I stand corrected.
TIL … lolicon, shotacon.
