@anyreso fait comme chez toi 😁

@FF255 interessant, ah mais c’est génial si crée un espace pour nos décisions et travaille sur s2s. Merci :) @Zeph @opensource

@opensource @anyreso @Camus yep idem mais quand j’ai voulu créer un groupe de sourds, tout le monde le trouvais compliqué sauf moi 😅

Nous sommes dessus et on l’utilise pour la modération, jeux vidéo…la fonction espace est très utile. Tu as visité le groupe matrix de jlai.lu ? :)

@opensource @anyreso Merci. :) Element me tenterai bien mais j’ai peur que ce soit compliqué.

@opensource @TheOtterDragon merci je retesterai alors :)

@opensource @Zeph

Merci, C’est vrai que Jitsi est solide. J’hésitais avec mattermost mais c’est plus du texte que visio. C’est en cours d’installation. Pour les soustitres ce serait super.

Et niveau droit, si je quitte le salon, est ce que je reste modo ? Et si j’envoie un message est ce qu’on peut etre ping par mail ?

@thoro
That’s the same principle as in any election. We check out your identity, make sure you didn’t vote twice, that you live there. That’s the core of the democracy system : transparency.

If i sum up, you want no one to check who backed those posts. Or find out a hexbear alt/supporter account as this one.

The best way is to completly remove the voting system from Lemmy because if vote aren’t public, most admin/mod team will remove them.

@Cowbee
Dunno where to start. Yes and the mod team blame the user for it. And then it excalated quickly. Our admin was fired up and played at your own game.

You did exactly the same thing. Here is the post you agreed on :
jlai.lu/pictrs/image/0285ede7-7d7e-4082-b8f2-df56bc748649.png?format=webp

Well, the quote isn’t enough. France is a complex polical landscape.

Jlailu ≠ France.
Jlailu ≠ Macron.

There are also belgians and right now few Swiss joined us. Jlai.lu is a very very very very small part of r/france. The biggest french comnunities on the fedi are on Mastodon. Futhermore most french users don’t use reddit, masto, lemmy but facebook, tiktok…we are a very very small part.

Macron was elected on the second tour because it was the only option left to block the far right movement. Most of leftist had no choice to vote again Macron knowing well what he will do. We endure him. Futhermore white vote + abstention was around 28%.

Yes, France is a colonial country. You can add Mayotte. Macron said racist thing. And Attal reported them as he is preparing 2027 election. Attal is not doing it out of interest.

Bolloré has bought various media and slowly change France political landscape to the far right movement as Vladimir Poutine did. Here is a study from the CNRS, about the Kremlin in France, in english :
hal-emse.ccsd.cnrs.fr/CURIE/hal-04629585v4

The point you omit with your quote on Macron is : what was our reaction to Macron on jlai.lu ? On the fediverse ?

it’s a weird logic. Let’s do as you wrote : imagine you live in America, then i quote Trump. Let’s take a break.

@Cowbee
I wasn’t talking about opening it why your account. As i said, you don’t need to interact with your account, you have a web browser.

you are right to defend your opinion but on the other hand there is thing that you can’t defend as those post i sent. So our vote quickly switched in defavour of hexbear. We were against defederation with hexbear firstly. And you didn’t question that.

Yes Lemmy dev designed vote of Lemmy that way. Any admin can see vote so they can check if there was any brigaging. I can’t. There was a raiding and a massive amount of upvote, downvote, so that’s when we check them up.

There are melery hidden but visible anywhere on the fediverse. On mbin, you can see upvote. You can see them on iceshrimp. And if you mount your own server, you can see everything.

Vote system has its pro and cons. In some case it allows us to block spam, push a good post. Other case it transform the whole thing as a stadium and escalate quickly.

I’m against voting system because it encourage a social pressure. I would completly remove them as beehaw do.

The idea of voting is promoting the most interesting/funny comment promote a mindset. And it doen’t tell anything about its content.

I prefer a tag system that tell us i’m talking about vegetable or scientific study. Then other tags as “good tips” “complete newpaper” “hilarous” “sad” “thank you !”

Indeed, it’s not alway pleasent seing ourselve in a mirror for anyone me included. That’s when you decide what is the best action.

Staying silent because you know it can be detrimentale, because you went there too. Because you know that he/she would deny. Because he/she will react badly and you need to protect yourself. Because it is not the right time and later they will ready.

Or saying the truth. I exposed you because it was a very serious issue and I wanted you to question your values. I wanted you to change, otherwise i wouldn’t write to you again.

I’m pretty sure you didn’t see that way, i’m a pest, aren’t i ? 😊 It was my own way to help you a little and then hexbear.

@Cowbee
You don’t need an account to see what those post are about. You know why you can’t interact with them. You can see them.

No, sorry, i’m not the right person. I’m not an admin but an moderator. I don’t belong to the trial section of the mod team, i don’t take position.

Our vote are public, anyone can see them. For example on mbin. That’s when i decided to sent that screenshot because you were defending hexbear anywhere.

@Cowbee

There is lot links in this community. I selected few one :

sh.itjust.works/post/26887977
sh.itjust.works/post/26892019

And there is a post where i saw your upvote and confronted you since you played as if you didn’t took part of it, didn’t know while being an advocate for hexbear’s instance.

That was one of my worst experience on internet.

It left me a very sour taste and when i showed your upvote, i hoped you would apologize, recognize that you played a role, then stand up and try to talk to them. Something like that.

However, you still ask us to change our view on hexbear while they continue doing the same thing…You may consider changing your point of view.

@Cowbee From what i saw, i don’t see why you define yourself as leftist because your upvotes say otherwise and you didn’t apologize nor tried to amend for it because it wasn’t your. But you upvoted it.

It was a post where some hexbear account insulted me.

@Martineski @koncertejo
Interesting, thank for your feedback.

For our instance jlai.lu, we try to balance bad news with the forum libre, where we can share picture, movie, book, some daily game…i think it work pretty well because everyone share what they love.

For News, we separated usa, israel-palestine from world news so it offers a place where anyone can post there or filter. And it let other communities breath.

@asklemmy
@Skunk @ceramicsky ​:blob_cheer:​ we use it in 99,5% of case ! I think canadian use tabarnak, but i’m not quite sure.

If you wanna create one on jlai.lu we will be very happy ​:akko_excited:​

@opensource

Petit bilan de 12train :

mastodon.social/@jeanbaptistemarie/113752211178805250

@oce
Très jolie buche :3

@oce
That’s what i hope they will achieve one day. Both are good. And if they don’t see the forum structure they won’t notice. :)

@oce
Well mastodon/iceshrimp’s users can’t see you. I can only see you there because i met you in jlai.lu first and added your account to my iceshrimp one. So right now, they can only see your jlai.lu account through me.

Outside my iceshrimp account or lemmyverse, you doesn’t exist in the fediverse.

ActivityPub, as i read should work that way : whatever the software is, we should access any content and interact with.

So, Lemmy is somewhat limited. Small support of hashtag, and we can’t follow people, nor react to their post. If ActivityPub worked well, those number as 1M would be irevalent as we should count the whole french fediverse community.

Same for Mastodon that doesn’t support forum style format.

I hope my explanation was clear. It’s still a wip project and i hope those barriers will be lowered and see software merging in some way. :)

@oce
I’m not sure if they really have 2.1M readers on Reddit. I don’t trust those numbers due to bots, inative accounts…

And if Lemmy was really connected to the fediverse we wouldn’t have 1K users but lot more.

@oce
Thank

In truth i don’t see why it increased the proportion of US user. In fact Reddit wasn’t popular outside US. And US if i recall correctly is one of the biggest internet country.

And when the migration started due to spez’s decision to milk Reddit and its users’s data, most of users stayed in Reddit and smaller commuties have a hard time to attract those Redditors since our activity is low.

Futhermore i follow most of jlai.lu active user through iceshrimp, my tab called “Lemmy” is in english.

So the final result isn’t surprising. 😅