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Cake day: June 11th, 2023

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  • I don’t use Bookwyrm either, but coming from the perspective of Storygraph, I don’t really think the average user there wants their review to become a talking point. I’m not really writing them for deep discussion or analysis, just my off-the-cuff thoughts on finishing a book, more for my own sake too. I also don’t want to see threaded conversations when i’m skimming over reviews to decide on a book to read. Hence why I think it makes more sense for a publicly follow but don’t interact type of federation for those types of services.




  • I think for me the problem with Bookwyrm (and one of the reasons I’m not really looking to move from Storygraph) is that I don’t really see services like Goodreads or Storygraph as social networks. I’m more interested in being able to manage lists, recommendations, progress, etc than I am with interacting with users on those platforms. I think they’re so specialized, that federating with those types of apps to Lemmy would end up a lot of noise on both that wouldn’t really make sense for either.

    The only thing I can see making sense for federation for me is maybe being able to follow a reviewer I like via my Mastdon account, so I can keep track of reviews without having to log into the platform.

    That’s just my thoughts though, but full scale federation vs something more like RSS to me is where the line between social network and app with social features lies for me.








  • The look of Gameboy Camera posts always makes me insanely nostalgic. It’s such a distinct look, and I loved mine back in the day (still think I have it stored somewhere in my closet).

    Also cool: I found this Lemmy post via Kbin, then followed the Pixelfed user via my Mastdon account. Federation is cool.


  • The look of Gameboy Camera posts always makes me insanely nostalgic. It’s such a distinct look, and I loved mine back in the day (still think I have it stored somewhere in my closet).

    Also cool: I found this Lemmy post via Kbin, then followed the Pixelfed user via my Mastdon account. Federation is cool.



  • I mean worst case you’ll see @meta.com accounts in your Federated feed in Mastodon (which for pretty much every instance is already a complete mess), I don’t even really see how it’ll affect Lemmy or Kbin, as they’re community driven rather than user driven. I follow users with Mastodon, I follow communities with Kbin.

    I dunno, maybe I’m being necessarily optimistic, but I do have friends and family who are posting on Insta/FB, and I basically maintain an account there to keep up with them. I’d love to be able to keep that connection without having to actually be locked into Meta’s platforms. And I do think at least a few of my tech savvy friends would be willing to give a client like Ivory a go if they’re able to do the same.


  • Personally, I’m not planning on using the Meta service, but I’m not a fan of pre-emptive defederation either. The vast majority of P92 users will have 0 clue what federation/activitypub is, let alone actually log into Lemmy, Mastodon, Kbin, etc. For them, they will forever think of themselves as @username, not @username.

    I’m totally fine with Meta releasing an app who’s posts are exposed via ActivityPub, along with being able to consume other posts via ActivityPub. If anything, I would like to think it’ll drive more people off the Meta platform and into Mastodon, as moving to a federated app doesn’t mean they have to completely break connections with their network on-platform with Meta.

    Overall, I’m more in favour of allowing a personal user to choose to defederate from specific instances, because regardless of what happens, if Meta joins, there will be other companies getting on the bandwagon, and endlessly splitting up based of which instances federate with which others will eventually lead to the whole damn thing falling apart and the big players becoming the de-jure instances anyways.

    I mean, the vast majority of Lemmy/Kbin users migrated from Reddit, as did the vast majority of Mastodon users from Twitter. I’m fine with keeping things open to help facilitate more user growth to community run instances, while also having a place for the less tech-savvy to get their feet wet.




  • I posted this on Mastodon, but I completely disagree with the idea of defederating from Meta instances on principal for the same reason I don’t want my Fastmail account to stop interacting with Gmail accounts just because I feel Google is too corporate. That defeats the entire purpose of open standards and federated content. I should be able to choose to personally block content from Meta instances if I want to, but it’s to the detriment of the community to fracture the Fediverse just because it’s starting to grow large enough to attract attention from one of the big tech companies.

    The reality is, a federated Meta service would at least initially grow the idea of federated social media as a whole, and likely drive traffic to Kbin/Lemmy/Mastodon from people who want to get off of the Meta platforms, but don’t want to cut contact with their friends/coworkers/enemies entirely. While I probably wouldn’t make an account, I’d be interested in at least being able to follow a few of my friends who I actually have interest in seeing updates from via my Masto/Kbin accounts.

    And I’m aware of the embrace/extend/extinguish paradigm, but premature defederation isn’t the answer there either.

    I’m an advocate for federated content for convenience, not on principal alone.