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@rozno @SuperSpruce
Choosing a server is often the hardest step. That’s why you should send the signup page of your fav instance to your friends and not the official lemmy page.
Main account -> matthieu_xyz@calckey.social
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@rozno @SuperSpruce
Choosing a server is often the hardest step. That’s why you should send the signup page of your fav instance to your friends and not the official lemmy page.
@cedarmesa @c2h6
Diaspora is one of the oldest of the oldest. Much older than mastodon. They’re federated too, but not on the same network.
Mastodon and lemmy uses ActivityPub. (Mastodon used to run on OStatus, but then switched to ActivituPub later) Diaspora uses its own protocol and refuses to ever switch to a most recent one.
Some fediverse services however (friendica and hubzilla which are kinda facebook-like) are using multiple protocols and can federate with both mastodon and diaspora.
@Boingbong
Mastodon can do that. Lemmy not at the moment. But it’s a very needed features.
And hopefully not just users, but the transfer of an entire community should theoretically be possible. Like mods of !A@lemmy.A decided to migrate the community to !A@lemmy.B and all subscribers to the community are transferred. It is possible in principle
@Boingbong
Mastodon can do that. Lemmy not at the moment. But it’s a very needed features.
And hopefully not just users, but the transfer of an entire community should theoretically be possible. Like mods of !A@lemmy.A decided to migrate the community to !A@lemmy.B and all subscribers to the community are transferred. It is possible in principle
@SuperIce @domage
Misskey is a Japanese twitter-like. It’s actually older than mastodon and very popular in Japan specifically. They have custom emoji reactions under posts, they have animation and advanced markdown, they can have cat ears on their profile pictures, THEY HAVE QUOTE REPOST, chat, advanced search features, etc.
Misskey have been forked multiple times (foudkey, calckey, etc.) and those forks are more popular in English-speaking communities.
@_finger_
We can have both generic instances and instances around a particular topic.
We already have a few lemmy dedicated to a particular community like latte.isnot.coffee and startrek.website
@Senseibull
You can think of it like emails.
A lemmy community is like an automated mailbox that sends everything they receive to all subscribers.
You can host a mailing list/community on gmail.
Then you can subscribe to the mailing list from outlook.
Then a user can send a post to the mailing list from yahoo.
The automated mailbox at gmail will receive the message from yahoo and send it to outlook and all other subscribers.
Some people are working on that. Calckey will soon be able to import posts from twitter (can alerady import from mastodon). Pixelfed can already import from instagram right now!!
Kbin and lemmy are very late in that regard. You can’t even migrate your social graph.
@Bicyclejohn I don’t know about “replace”, but popular social media could JOIN the fediverse.
I don’t blame new users to be late on news. But to make a quick recap, the people interested in implementing ActivityPub include:
- Meta (insta/twt replacement)
- Tumblr
- Wordpress.com
- Medium (currently only running mastodon)
- Discourse
- Flarum
Last time I check those were a few popular social media.
Discourse and Flarum in particular are relevant to Lemmy
@aianarchist @CannotSleep420
There need to be one first follower for the community to be synced.
You are the first to follow this community from this lemmy server. Now the community is synced and will keep updating.
I think that’s almost inevitable. Almost all mid-sized lemmy instances will have a copy of almost all mid-sized lemmy communities.
Lemmy is a very different beast compared to mastodon. Of course not everyone is following everyone on mastodon, but if you have an even slightly diverse userbase, they’ll subscribe to a lot of different communities and your instance will have a lot of traffic very quickly. Hosting lemmy is going to be challenging.
@bruhsoulz asklemmy is like a mailing list or a twitter bot that retweets everything it receives. If it can’t receive messages, it can’t retweet/boost/forward them to others.
@bruhsoulz
If you want an example of what happens when two servers block one another.
calckey.social and lemmy.one can talk to each other. So my post is visible here: https://lemmy.one/comment/33034
calckey.social can’t talk with lemmy.ml so the post isn’t on lemmy.ml
Since lemmy.ml is the home server of “asklemmy”, it can’t be forwarded to other servers so no one can see it except lemmy.one and calckey.social
That’s a lot of message duplication and it will have some growing pains for the lemmy admins, but at least exploration shouldn’t be too hard.
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@xboxLIVE @bruhsoulz
> I’m not sure if I’m able to see all posts
If only ONE user from pawb.social follows !some_community@lemmy.ml, then the entire community and all new messages will be sent to pawb.social.
So, unless your instance have a very low amount of user or the community you’re looking for has a very low amount of followers, every mid-sized community will soon be synced on all mid-sized lemmy server.
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I think the main issue is that calckey.social is used as a pre-prod testing ground to live-test “-dev” releases that are less stable than even “-rc” releases let even stable releases.
The question is can calckey.social be both cutting-edge highly updated arch-linux style and the flagship of calckey? I like the idea of pre-testing new features before everyone else, but a flagship should be stable. It’s hard to do both.
They also have growing pains.
@Marv
BUT, it needs moderation and moderating NSFW is hard, exhausting and time-consuming. Not everyone wants to do that. Also when I say NSFW content, it doesn’t have to be porn bot posting content they don’t own. It could be OC only, a photograph community that allows nude models, etc. Unlike porn dumps communities, those are important places to have.
Edit: Also research the history of switter, it’s very interesting. And one of the big failures of the fediverse. We should learn from it.
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@Marv IMO we need some NSFW instances. It wouldn’t be a problem with the rest of lemmy/kbin because it’s easy to filter out communities/magazine or entire instances.
There is a legitimate demand for NSFW content. And NSFW content can be a decisive factor in the success of a platform. (See Tumblr vs Twitter, photographs on instagram, etc.) Sex workers are also a vulnerable group and one of the goals of the fediverse is to provide a place for marginalized groups.
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@menturi @raccoon There is a bunch of other protocols other than ActivityPub who are also considered part of the fediverse: Diaspora, Zot, Streams, etc.
In fact ActivityPub wasn’t always the main protocol of the fediverse, it used to be OStatus. Mastdon was first build on top of OStatus before switching to ActivityPub.
But nowadays ActivityPub is by far the most used one.
@fediverse @Perfide @MoogleMaestro
The staff of automatic have confirmed multiple times on Twitter and Mastodon that they’re working on this for both Tumblr and wordpress. And many people offered their help, including the co-inventor of ActivityPub.
This IS happening. I don’t know when, but it’s coming.