Yes, that was my point. In both situations, it’s actually quite easy to compare the 2 sides. Both America and Russia use the playbook “Might makes right”. Go ahead and argue that one or the other is worse, there’s good arguments for both. But claiming they’re incomparable is absurd, unless you’re saying it because you think they are too similar to each other to differentiate between. Just like apples and oranges are both medium size, round, sweet fruits with seeds and a reddish-yellow outside. Both groups are essentially the same thing, with a couple intrinsic, but ultimately insignificant, differences.

Thanks for the breakdown, I follow news, but there sure is a lot of it lately. And especially with American takes on Russia, it is effectively impossible to find reliable news sources beyond literally Reddit, and now even reddit isn’t reliable. I don’t even trust American News about American news, certainly not Russian.

On #3, that isnt a regular occurrence, right? I mean, I can imagine Biden getting assassinated, and then a month later Congress gets their quarterly bribes. It definitely looks suspicious, but it’s actually business as usual.

In #s 1 and 5, that’s all post mortem, right? Are the circumstances of the actual death equally suspicious? Cause like, the CIA and FBI worked very hard to cover up their long association with Lee Harvey Oswald, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they told him to do it. Do you think it’s possible a similar situation could have occured here?

I’m not moving the goalposts, America does evil shit in a different way than Russia does. There’s no reason 2 fruits can’t be compared. Like, right now Putin is being nicer to his opponents, due to the genocide America is sponsoring, which is obviously the clear worst possible act. There’s also a lot to be said for Russia staying in their lane. Russia goes to war with their neighbor, USA goes to the middle east, on the literal other side of the globe. America will prosecute Donald Trump but assassinate Snowden, Epstein, MLK, etc. Reversing that doesn’t seem meaningfully worse to me. One could argue it’s better.

Uhh, yes, they do. Have you heard of literally any country in South America? Just about every one of them has had a politician murdered by USA.

Or consider Edward Snowden or Julian Assange. If either American hero returned to his home, he would be killed within a month for made up treason. The two countries have a lot more in common than people seem to think.

But my overall point is, can you give me any sort of evidence of foul play beyond “trust me bro”? I am more than willing to believe it, but innocent until proven guilty is the only correct way to do this stuff. This comment thread literally looks exactly like when MAGAs were convinced that Hillary Clinton had murdered Seth Rich (along with a couple others I think), just wild baseless speculation being enforced by the hive mind, evidence be damned.

Umm, all the Democrats who want to beat trump, for one. All the ones who hate genocide too. I wasn’t saying actively seeking, just prefer dead to not dead.

Does this mean it’s still possible that a poop machete or poop katana is viable?

Of course, and I’m happy to believe you. I assume it was intentional, but that’s not an assumption based on any facts. Can you show me some facts on which a reasonable person could base an assumption? “Trust me bro” has historically been an awful source.

Right now in America, it is the case that plenty of people aligned with the Democrats have a good reason to want Joe Biden dead. If he were to die suspiciously tomorrow, would it be reasonable to say that it must have been Republicans who did it?

Do you know of any legit source that shows it was most likely murder? Not to say I don’t believe it, but Innocent until proven guilty, right?

Russia isnt doing a genocide, they’re just Fighting a war over land. You can tell by the fact that Putin speaks about Crimeans as if they’re equivalent to Russians, while Israel has made it clear they consider all Palestinians to be animals.

Well, the citizens they killed were literally firing on them and killed around 150 soldiers. Meanwhile the military for the most part did not have guns. Not saying it is justified even then to use military force on striking workers, but a hell of a lot more justified than western media claims. Oh yeah, and literally no college students died that day, as well as nobody within a mile of Tianenmen Square.

Yeah but this way is way scarier, cause even if you survive the army, you now also have to invent a time machine if you ever want to get back home.

True, but they’re not a bad person for lying to you.

Right, they were trying to not die. That is what everybody will do in this scenario. That’s the kind of thing that happens when you murder somebody, the victim is generally opposed to your plan, and so they typically do not do as you wish. An execution that plans to have the victim of it go along with the plan is simply idiotic.

Seems like a pretty small price to pay to prevent murder. In fact, I’d go so far as to say you’re a bad person if you’re not willing to pay that price.

If a natural human response messes up your execution, you should absolutely blame the method.

You act like running a country is hard. The only hard part of running America is hiding all your bribes.

Ahh, 2 tons of duck beaks actually aren’t heavy enough, actually

What if you’re right though? Isn’t then a perfectly good time to lie? If you know for sure that the death penalty is evil (which doesn’t seem too big a leap given the facts), then it’s wrong not to lie to people to get them to stop it. Otherwise you’d be saying that your own morality outweighs the humanity of others. If it results in no death penalty, it was a good action. People act like the ends aren’t justifying the means in 99.99% of cases. It is notable specifically when the ends do not justify the means. If the ends are preventing murder, and the means is lying, there is no question whether lying is justified.

Conservatives such as Joe Biden. It’s all the same scam, stop falling for it

There is nothing we can do to make Biden stop supporting genocide other than vote him out. Yeah trump might also do it, but he didn’t the first time. And certainly the guy who might is better than the guy who definitely will.