Commenting so that when it turns out to be fake news I can

It’s still definitely food for thought though.

Thank you for letting me know, I’d never have assumed that but I feel kinda gross now for thinking it was just a generational thing 😔

We live and learn. I still find myself having to catch myself in situations where maybe its better to just use the full acronym to not trigger anyone.

That’s really interesting, I guess my perspective is shaped by my material conditions

Lmao but genuinely that’s really interesting. Admittedly this thread is the first time I’ve heard it’s not pecieved in the same way which says to me I’ve fallen for a British (but positioning itself as the “International community”) position so it’s given me some things to think about as hearing its being weaponised by reactionaries makes me feel the ick now.

I transitioned with literally zero wise elders around to provide guidance.

Mood

I have however had enough moments of speaking to older gays in our cities gay town and was asked to be aware of the history of that term and it deffo made me go “ah m’bad”.

I’m guilty of using queer without considering who I’m talking to.

When I talk to boomer gays and use queer as a catchall term I’ve seen visible recoil.

To them queer was a slur similar to foxtrot-Oscar-gay-gay-oscar-triceratops (I can’t remember the phonetic alphabet) and was used to oppress and attack them at least in the UK.

And like yeaaah, it was even when I was in school up until like 2010s so its not as reclaimed with the older generation as we’d like to hope because of lived experience from what I’ve seen which is fair.

So as a result I don’t use it around older gay men and use the acronym since queer genuinely seems to bring back a lot of the 80s gay panic trauma for them I guess.

I’d liken it to when a cis friend called me triceratops-rain-alpha-november-november-yacht as a in-joke he assumed i knew since he knows a fair few trans people who are reclaiming that term on twitter but for me that word is full of trauma and I was like “nope, I’m not in that community please don’t ever say that again”.

I called him a chaser cos he has a trans gf and said it was reclaimed by friends of mine with trans gfs and he got the message why you can’t assume reclaimed words have the same gravity with each individual.

I guess I see queer in a similar vein, I guess the difference is the time since it was reclaimed is the big difference.

I don’t think we need a new umbrella term but I think it’s important for us to remember others experiences with reclaimed words before we assume them to be gospel (despite most gay publications I’ve seen using it fine).

I dunno, I’m trying to be mature and empathic 😭😭😭

Why would you change the order? It implies some level of arbitary importance to certain unique struggles over others which I don’t think is healthy while we all share the same acronym.

Also L should stay at the front because that relates more to gay history and the allyship shown by women during the AIDS epidemic to provide blood to sufferers and L comes first to honor that.

I love how people like you piss and cry over LQBTQIA+ which is an 8 letter acronym but managed to learn the higher amount of letters in an alphabet and didn’t act like a whiney piss baby then.

I bet you’ll be able to tell me encyclopaedic knowledge of either gaming, sports, TV, movies or programming depending on your interests though.

Go learn to think man baby.

DISENGAGE

Also I didn’t even reply to your comment weirdo, talk about feeling read and seeing your shit in my comment 👀

Lmao no

“I’m all for socialism as long as it looks and feels just like capitalism and all the inhuman death and killing that comes along with it because at my heart I’m a selfish self centered lib who is quite happy to see minorities and working class people domestically and abroad killed to maintain my cushy standard of living. Read a book and learn what actual socialism and leftism means? No chance, I use my paper thin knowledge of politics and my middle of the road positions to impress whoever listens to me because I know nobody cares enough to Google why I’m a liar when I talk about politics, and demonising actual leftists as extremists gives my vapid centrist soc dem takes more clout with everyone huffed up on anti communism and crypto fascism these days. Sadly for me hexbear do know more than me and call me out for being the bloodthirsty callous lib I am and it makes me piss my pants and cry when it happens because I don’t want to take any social responsibility for the exploitation i benefit from waah”

Or something to that effect.