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  • I understand what you were trying to say. It’s just silly and well wrong. Vegans have never tried to justify any atrocity on the scale of what the White supremacists or christofascists have.

    Having an opinion that’s extreme or different from others doesn’t make you bad. That’s a silly thing to think. What makes you bad is doing bad things. Sure, people that do bad things need to justify them to themselves. I agree there.

    However what large-scale atrocities have vegans or vegetarians committed that makes you think that they are like these other groups? If you don’t have an answer for that, you’re saying something silly and stupid.

    Do you see it’s a two-part thing? Horrible atrocity plus internal justification. All you have on vegans is that they have a different morals than you. They’re not using those different morals to justify atrocities. Understand?















  • I think this is semantic(definitions) confusion. Please let me explain. For example communism by definition is a stateless society. Meaning a state cannot be communist. The countries you are thinking of have all called themselves socialist not communist. Socialism does not necessitate dictatorship or democracy. It’s simply economical. Socialism is an economic system that abolishes private property which marx defined as different from personal property. Personal property includes your place of living your tv your clothes all your personal shit. Private property refers to owning the means of production. So under socialism you could own your house but not a factory or Google ect.

    The countries that are exploited the worst have sometimes had socialist revolts in the past. These countries are typically not functioning democracies beforehand. The USSR had a tsar. China’s last emperor ended up joining the socialists once he was overthrown. Cuba had a U.S. backed dictator before Castro’s popular revolution. These countries were not made into dictator ships because of socialism. You have the idea in your head because of capitalist propaganda.

    Democratic socialism is just capitalism with a nice welfare state built on it. Despite the name it doesn’t necessitate having democracy or socialism. Infact it’s incompatible with socialism. These states are nicer then usual capitalist states but often backslide. For example Britain moving closer and closer to privatizing their healthcare.

    I hope that makes some sense.