• sub_ubi@lemmy.ml
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    Yeah choose one,

    • 12 websites written mostly by templates that are keyword-stuffed to sound like your question, and one might contain an answer in the 8th paragraph.
    • A response from a bot that’s unreliable, but extremely specific to your query.
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      Too accurate… Finding information on the Internet is becoming a major pain in the ass these days. It doesn’t help that public tech support/help forums are being increasingly replaced by having to join hyper-specific Discord servers.

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    I have noticed that the quality of results on Google and DDG and others have been declining steadily over the last few years, and I think this is mostly a result of click farms generally getting better at gaming the system. Genuinely quality content is just being drowned out by crap.

    ChatGPT doesn’t really address this. I also don’t see ChatGPT as a genuine replacement yet because 1) hallucination is still too big of a problem and 2) the value add of using natural language for queries doesn’t seem all that beneficial to me. Sorta like, how IF you are already used to a terminal, it will be faster or just as fast as a GUI for many things.

    The only real value I have seen from ChatGPT, is for complex boilerplate generation that is very easy to verify. ChatGPT is fantastic for generating regex, for example. Or poems, if you prefer.

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      Natural language kind of stuff can be helpful if you don’t know the relvent terms for something though I haven’t had too much luck most of the time with ChatGPT on that kind of stuff. Worse is that ChatGPT is likely to lead to even more SEO spam :(

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      I’ve used ChatGPT for things like generating c linker scripts or writing a bochs configuration file. It would have taken me 30 minutes to research how to make a bochs config file but since I got ChatGPT to shit out something wrong but close to correct, I only had to fill in the incorrect stuff based on common sense and google a few things.

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    I only use DDG to search for answers on the web.

    At the moment, CGPT is mostly used for building me small scripts. i’m not a great programmer, but i do understand bash script most of the time. so often if i need something done i’ll just ask CGPT to build me something and i think it only made a mistake once.

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    They aren’t designed to be right, they’re designed to look like they’re right

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    I don’t use Google very often anymore, more of a DuckDuckGo fan. However using ChatGPT has become my goto for quick howto stuff. A lot of web searches will load clickbait articles or dead end forums. Using GPT I often get a strait forward guide built for exactly what I need.

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      it’s amazing how much the web is full of clickbait and fake sites trying to just capture search result traffic. ironically, ChatGPT seems to make it even easier to make sites like that. 😭

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    I still use Google when I’m wanting to find a particular website, but ChatGPT is definitely nibbling at the use cases. ChatGPT is good when I’m brainstorming random ideas - it’s important to bear in mind that it makes crap up, but sometimes that’s what I’m after. If accuracy is important I can double-check it afterward.

    Bing was looking like it might take over from Google for me, but in recent weeks something changed and I started not liking it any more. I would ask it for something and it would always do a websearch and seemingly base its answer entirely on whatever website it first found. That results in it giving a lot of “I don’t know the answer…” responses when I know that the answers are really out there. If Bing’s going to act as the “I feel lucky” button on Google then there’s not much value in it. Maybe they’ll fix it.

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      But it’s really good in faking knowledge. Very often it sounds legit, even though it’s just some made up bs. You read it, it’s wrong, but it still sounds like it’s legit. Read about a judge or lawyer using it to provide old cases as precedent and CGPT made up some old case and case numbers. Still it was used in court till it turned out such cases never existed.

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        Yes, I am aware. I said:

        ChatGPT is good when I’m brainstorming random ideas - it’s important to bear in mind that it makes crap up, but sometimes that’s what I’m after.

        Sometimes I want it to be making stuff up that sounds legit, that’s exactly what I’m after. The legitness is the important part, the accuracy is secondary. Sometimes I provide it with all the facts up front and just want it to rewrite them for me.

        Don’t use it in court. That’s not what it’s for. It’s for other things.

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    It doesn’t necessarily replace search engines, but I’ve been using chatgpt and sometimes Bing chat more and more. Like others have said, it does hallucinate all the time, and cannot be trusted to be 100% correct. I don’t see that as a problem though, as long as I have some way to verify what it says, assuming accuracy is important. The amount of time wasted by bad answers is easily made up with the time savings on correct, or correct-ish answers.

    I’m a software engineer, so a common work pattern will be to ask chatgpt “write me code to do X, meeting constraints Y and Z”. As long as the subject isn’t too obscure, it’ll generally produce something I can work with. I then adapt that code sample to work in the actual context it is needed, and then debug it as if it were my own code. Sometimes it’ll make up function and things like that, but I’ll fix those and it doesn’t take any more time than if I had to go learn that function as I wrote my own implementation.

    Another scenario is when I get an error I’m unfamiar with. Often times, I can ask chatgpt to explain the error, and sometimes even fix it for me. This usage more directly replaces a search engine. If the fix doesn’t work, then I’ll do it the old fashioned way.

    I’m strongly looking forward to github copilot X to be even more integrated than chatgpt in this work flow.

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    No, but recently i’ve stopped using Google as well. Currently I mostly use Ecosia, I think their company philosophy is pretty cool and I like the results so far. I don’t think that ChatGPT works as a substitute for a search engine for my uses at least, as many of my searches require me to check multiple links and I don’t always type in the full natural language sentences necessary for ChatGPT.

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    Switched to DuckDuckGo but lately almost every search I make I find a reddit answer so I started searching on reddit directly

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    Not really (I wasn’t using Google directly anyway), I think it fills a slightly different niche than search engines.

    It’s good as a fuzzy search for the sum of public knowledge, since it can understand quite complex queries and point you in the right direction, then you can go to regular search engines to find more specific stuff.

    Bing was fun to exploit, but I don’t really see why it’s useful, it tends to always look up information which means it provides less of its own knowledge, I can do the searches myself better than an LM. Maybe it can provide more concise answers than all the SEO crap everywhere, but that can be avoided by searching on specific websites like reddit.

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    Yeah, pretty much (GPT-4’s a big upgrade over the default 3.5).

    That said, OpenAssistant is already really impressive for a project with such limited resources. Would love to see open-source overtake OpenAI quickly (which IMO isn’t out of the question, considering how quickly Stable Diffusion developed)

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    Hasn’t impacted me, and hasn’t drawn me to Bing either. I recommend using DuckDuckGo. I have for years now and love them!