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- cross-posted to:
- snoocalypse@lemmy.ml
- reddit@lemmy.ml
Some of Reddit’s most popular communities have posted open letters to the company with a series of requests regarding many key issues at the heart of the recent protests on the platform. They want a response by June 29th.
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Yeah, the behavior by spez and the company as a whole afterwards was abysmal. Trying to gaslight Christian was the last straw for me (lucky he had the call logs). It went from “I’m going to use reddit much less because my third party app is being killed” to “I actively hate this company and will go out of my way to avoid giving them any money at all”.
Yep, I feel exactly the same. I created and moderated about 10 smallish communities as well as moderating a few large ones 500k+, 2 of which i was the sole active mod. I’m done, admins can go fuck themselves.
The actions of the admins after the initial blackout were why I moved over to Lemmy.
This feels very much like a “when someone shows you who they are, believe them” type scenario. Even if Reddit backtracks and courts 3rd party apps in their eco-system, they’ve shown themselves. They don’t care about communities, users, or mods.
When your abusive partner promises to stop beating you, you should not go back to the relationship. They will beat you again.
Looking at a subreddit that I joined right now, there is a poll about the future of the subreddit and the protest and 53% are to stay open.
MANY in the comments see the protest as useless and that it “hurts the community”. While I agree with the point that it locks users out from the subreddit, especially for tech support, I can tell you that they all don’t really care about this.
I also have seen someone create a replacement subreddit for the private one just to fill the gap.
And looking at all those Awards being given out in the posts about the AMAs and such, I have very little hope that something will change on Reddit’s side.
I think, all the mods of those subreddits just pack up and leave to the alternatives like lemmy and let the Subreddits rot.
Reddit has given several responses, full of contempt, belittlement, and insults. Oh, and threats. Can’t forget the threats.
Hey reddit mods: reddit doesn’t give a damn about you, your sub, or the community you built. Yes, it sucks. Yes, it hurts. Don’t be a sucker and wait around for another response. The sooner you move on from reddit, the better off you’ll be.
Just stop moderating them already. Don’t go dark. Reddit will revert. Don’t make it NSFW to stop ad profits. Reddit will revert. Just. Stop. Moderating. Let it fill up with nudes and hate speech and then sure, let’s have Reddit forcibly remove you. They’ll pull in a new team of mods but if they’re just picked out of the blue, they’re unlikely to find the time and energy necessary to do it well because this takes passion.
Dude reddit isn’t for you. It is okay. It is a business and they have a right to do whatever they want with their business, but IDK how many more ways they can say “You aren’t important to me” before people stop saying “But I should be important to you!”
I don’t think that the people who provide the content and the people who moderate the content are wrong in thinking that they should be accorded some respect by a site that would be worthless without that content.
Reddit has told them all to fuck off in a variety of ways for months.
At some point you gotta take the hint instead of trying to make peace with the abuser.
Yeah, I don’t think they’re saying that users aren’t important to Reddit; what they seem to wanna say is that Reddit doesn’t care whether or not users are important to them.
The only thing you can do at this point is quit, because Reddit will only budge when it’s too late for them.
They’re not wrong at all, but Reddit aren’t going to change their mind and grant them their due respect. Like with Digg before it, the userbase will slowly migrate away if this keeps up.
It’s way past this point now. Had reddit done this back when the shutdowns were first planned that would be one thing, but at this point they’ve demonstrated they can’t be trusted, they don’t care about their users or mods, and they’re only interested in anything they think will increase the their profit margins for the IPO. If you aren’t an investment firm they don’t give a single shit about you past whatever damage you might do to their IPO plans.
Let’s see them deliver on those promised moderation tools by end of month. If they can’t or won’t hit that milestone then I have little faith in them doing anything else. (Not that I have any faith in them any more, just, you know.)
I didn’t read anything in this thread, but I’d just like to give my opinion. I honestly don’t care. Make it affordable if you wish, but if Lemmy keeps alive and well, I’m good at where I am.
Bad idea, this looks like Stockholm syndrome to me.
Reddit has already shown they will screw everyone over, and no amount of blowback so far has gotten them to change course.
Leave (and optionally try to give Reddit as much hell as possible on the way out). That’s the only answer now.
I don’t think there is any redemption either, even if u/spez is removed. He’s not the first bad head of the company, if anything the company has never had any good heads.
I made a script that changes all my old comments to gibberish, but I haven’t used it yet. I can’t decide if it’s a good idea or not. I’m not saying that my old comments are extremely useful, but I wouldn’t want to prevent people from reading or having context or any help I’ve given.
They will simply roll your edits back.
Dont give them the clicks
Just move on
Maybe delete your account
All deleting your account does is remove your username from your comments while also removing your ability to delete or edit said comments. It makes more sense to keep it active so you have more control over your data.
And gives you a reason to stop visiting the site.
The data stopped belonging to you as soon as you posted it*
*unless you live somewhere GDPR applies or like california•*
•and if reddit actually complies•
Yeah, reddit is restoring bulk edits made using the api but you can still go to your user profile, sort by top scoring comments, and manually change your top 10-20 comments
Reddit can suck it, I’m not going back.
Yeah, they’ve already shown us that they don’t actually care about the communities, only the ad impressions.
I feel for the mods, both here and on Reddit. Disrespected by both users and admins, but doing the important work even if sometimes they come across as power-hungry or capricious.
Agreed.
The open letters showed me those people only cared about their position in the first place. Otherwise they wouldn’t be bargaining, knowing it’s useless, they’d leave like the rest of us did
How about the; CaN’t yOu ThINk AbOuT tHe CoMMunITy?!?!?! crap they have been telling themselves.
It’s time to stop begging and start leaving.
Agreed. I think we need to establish a better migration system for users. It’s honestly extremely easy to get set up on, say, lemmy.world. it took me a couple minutes to make an account, download apps, and log in on my computer and my phone.
I think a lot of redditors are afraid of having to learn a new thing and word on the street over there is that the federated communities are hard to understand. We need to let them know it’s not that bad and provide easy steps to migrate. I think if they actually know how painless it can be, more would migrate.
Not to mention, many users just look at /r/all anyway, so they won’t even need to worry about subscribing or navigating away from their local instance. I’ve been trying to include some very basic steps to get started and then, if they are so inclined, they can learn more about how the federation works as they go.
Gotta say, I thought it sounded a lil complicated at first. I’d heard ‘Lemmy.world’ mentioned a few times, so I came over and signed up…. And that’s it. There wasn’t anything complicated at all. Been here a few days now and loving it so far.
Exactly. What I’m seeing over on reddit almost seems like pro-reddit propaganda. They make it sound impossible to get into and inevitable to fail. But let’s be honest, the numbers here have been impressive this last week. It’ll probably only grow from here. I’m hoping my little comments here and there on reddit might help bring people over faster. Hopefully others can do the same.
Exactly… but at the same time, i like smaller communities, so if most of those people want to stay on reddit, let em.
Yeah its really tough in that regard. There was a lot of small communities that were hands down some of my favorites. Takes years for those kind of things to build.
Gotta start somewhere though.
Couldn’t care less. Lemmy is already so much better than that cesspool. Reddit has been circling the drain for years.
Interesting how the first thing I felt when I read this was, “I hope Reddit doesn’t”.
Incredible how fast my fondness of Reddit went away in 1 week.
It’s a platform whose time to die has arrived. The corpos are getting their hands on it, and nothing punk can be done with it anymore.
Fuck corpo shit. Burn corpo shit.
My hope is that all this drama makes the IPO not happen.
My hope is that all this drama makes the IPO not happen.
Nah, it would be better if IPO happens and the company’s value evaporates overnight.
Probably wouldn’t happen, but one can dream.
Go look at Robinhood’s stock chart since its IPO.
Robinhood got on our bad side, remember? We did some hella punk shit on Reddit.
Nowadays you can’t use reddit like that. Bots, paid shills, shadow bans, silenced subreddits, co-opted mods, and now you can’t even take your sub dark in protest. You’re either a profitable end user or entirely unwelcome.
Edit: typo
I’m sure reddit will get right on that.
