Since i lived in a better system (in a very very small scale and for a short amount of time but it’s most likely scalable) I can disagree. It’s a start for sure and 100% better than raw Capitalism but there is still much space for improvement. Design the industry more in decentralized manner, design it more like liltle democracy than a absolute system. And give everybody their fair share based on the work done and and what the person needs (that’s obviously should be decided by the council based consensus democracy (if possible sometimes you just need majoritan democracy) .
Also to spice things up we can open some more libraries of things and improve other services for the public like the train.
And if we want to go really U/evtopian (which I want to) we could also replace some if not all markets with dispenseries. Cause markets are not always the best way to distribute goods.
It was a smaller ZAD, the bigger zones, where similar system are used are outside my continent. Rojava, EZLN etc. They are not exact the same as I described it since I just wanted to describe what can be improved based on other project; Libraries (of things) already exsist, worker cooperatives/syndicates already exsist and so on.
So you lived within a consensual, intentional community within the framework of a larger capitalist society. That’s all allowed and good, the problems generally arise when people try to reengineer the entire society along the lines of those intentional communities. That’s when people face a choice between either allowing private enterprise to persist and admitting that they can’t move past capitalism or resorting to dictatorial despotism.
Why should there be no 3. Way? A way where we advocate for democracy and beyond inside the economic sector. And create project for project a better world on grass root-level. While we weaken the capitalist system and limit it destructive capabilities. I know more people can imagen the end end of the world than a end of capitalism. Which is kind of sad thinking about it’s exploitive and destructive nature. But I always say: you can’t let the world end without a fight. So I just pic the topics I am interested in and help there (handing out pamphlets, talking about Solarpunk, helping in youth councils and going on demos for human rights and for our ecosphere).
I am always happy when people decide to help but we can’t force anybody to do so because this would be against what we stand for.
It was a studie on teenagers where this result is from. I mean the earth will still rotate. But our ecosphere takes havey damage under our current system and I probably don’t have to explain why this is a big problems.
Keep on mind that this world we live in is extremely interconceted not only on the social level (like the interconnections between capitalism, stastism, colonialism, Racism, Sexism) but also on the social-ecological level. The short summary of the reason is: alienation of humans from nature, the fact that infinite growth which is required by capitalism is not possible on a finite planet, the focus on power and profit instead of Humans and nature and comodification of the natural world.
Social ecology is actually a very own school of thought. I recommend to check out the Lemmy communities on SLRPNK.net and if you want deeper beginners explanation of the topic I recommend andrewisms video on the topic
PS: an increasing number in climate scientists and activists (including the IPCC) recognize that we need systemic changes to combat climate change
The ecosystem will take damage under any form of industrial existence. Capitalism, however, is driving innovation towards reducing our carbon footprint. As to alienation from nature, I am quite happy that my wife and child didn’t die in childbirth, thank you. And I like having both heat and air conditioning. I’m good.
That kind of capitalism only works due to neocolonialism in the global south. The profits for the safety net need to come from somewhere and it sure as hell is not from the profits of the bourgeoisie.
That kind of capitalism is responsible for massive advanced in the quality of life of people who live in the global South you pretend to care about. I’m not interested in your YouTube propaganda videos.
The quality of life has drastically gone down in the global south due to the global north. But sure, slavery and the pillage of the wealth of the global south was for the greater good, right? And of course, you wouldn’t watch anything that doesn’t fit your biases.
Oh, so now you’re pretending mercantilism is capitalism. Pretty typical horse shit.
And no, quality of life is dramatically improving in the global South. Check rates of electrification, running water, and poverty. The facts say that life is getting better for the global poor, so why do you hate them so much?
Capitalism with workers protections and a social safety net is better than anything else we have tried, and you know it.
Since i lived in a better system (in a very very small scale and for a short amount of time but it’s most likely scalable) I can disagree. It’s a start for sure and 100% better than raw Capitalism but there is still much space for improvement. Design the industry more in decentralized manner, design it more like liltle democracy than a absolute system. And give everybody their fair share based on the work done and and what the person needs (that’s obviously should be decided by the council based consensus democracy (if possible sometimes you just need majoritan democracy) . Also to spice things up we can open some more libraries of things and improve other services for the public like the train. And if we want to go really U/evtopian (which I want to) we could also replace some if not all markets with dispenseries. Cause markets are not always the best way to distribute goods.
What country is that
It was a smaller ZAD, the bigger zones, where similar system are used are outside my continent. Rojava, EZLN etc. They are not exact the same as I described it since I just wanted to describe what can be improved based on other project; Libraries (of things) already exsist, worker cooperatives/syndicates already exsist and so on.
So you lived within a consensual, intentional community within the framework of a larger capitalist society. That’s all allowed and good, the problems generally arise when people try to reengineer the entire society along the lines of those intentional communities. That’s when people face a choice between either allowing private enterprise to persist and admitting that they can’t move past capitalism or resorting to dictatorial despotism.
Why should there be no 3. Way? A way where we advocate for democracy and beyond inside the economic sector. And create project for project a better world on grass root-level. While we weaken the capitalist system and limit it destructive capabilities. I know more people can imagen the end end of the world than a end of capitalism. Which is kind of sad thinking about it’s exploitive and destructive nature. But I always say: you can’t let the world end without a fight. So I just pic the topics I am interested in and help there (handing out pamphlets, talking about Solarpunk, helping in youth councils and going on demos for human rights and for our ecosphere). I am always happy when people decide to help but we can’t force anybody to do so because this would be against what we stand for.
…why would capitalism mean the world ending
It was a studie on teenagers where this result is from. I mean the earth will still rotate. But our ecosphere takes havey damage under our current system and I probably don’t have to explain why this is a big problems. Keep on mind that this world we live in is extremely interconceted not only on the social level (like the interconnections between capitalism, stastism, colonialism, Racism, Sexism) but also on the social-ecological level. The short summary of the reason is: alienation of humans from nature, the fact that infinite growth which is required by capitalism is not possible on a finite planet, the focus on power and profit instead of Humans and nature and comodification of the natural world. Social ecology is actually a very own school of thought. I recommend to check out the Lemmy communities on SLRPNK.net and if you want deeper beginners explanation of the topic I recommend andrewisms video on the topic PS: an increasing number in climate scientists and activists (including the IPCC) recognize that we need systemic changes to combat climate change
The ecosystem will take damage under any form of industrial existence. Capitalism, however, is driving innovation towards reducing our carbon footprint. As to alienation from nature, I am quite happy that my wife and child didn’t die in childbirth, thank you. And I like having both heat and air conditioning. I’m good.
That kind of capitalism only works due to neocolonialism in the global south. The profits for the safety net need to come from somewhere and it sure as hell is not from the profits of the bourgeoisie.
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That kind of capitalism is responsible for massive advanced in the quality of life of people who live in the global South you pretend to care about. I’m not interested in your YouTube propaganda videos.
The quality of life has drastically gone down in the global south due to the global north. But sure, slavery and the pillage of the wealth of the global south was for the greater good, right? And of course, you wouldn’t watch anything that doesn’t fit your biases.
Oh, so now you’re pretending mercantilism is capitalism. Pretty typical horse shit.
And no, quality of life is dramatically improving in the global South. Check rates of electrification, running water, and poverty. The facts say that life is getting better for the global poor, so why do you hate them so much?