At least they took a stand. Thousands of other subs who got the same ultimatums just gave in no questions asked, no malicious compliance.
I can understand that, lot of smaller sub are build by themselves, not wanting to lose something you spend so much time building to some random smug is pretty much human, it isn’t about holding that jANitOr job. I’ve seen a country sub i frequent goes from 4 digit to 6 digit in the span of 6 years, it’s a lot of works. Also sub like r/projectzomboid is established by the company and mods are paid position, getting kick out is…weird lol.
The issue is, because it’s “understandable”, it’s also what gives spez the power here. If they weren’t willing to go all the way, they needn’t have bothered with the blackout at all. There was never any actual hope spez would change his mind from a 2 day blackout, anyone that knows anything about how he’s handled things in the past should have known this. This was always going to be a standoff.
Besides, after everything spez has done, these mods shouldn’t want to be modding for the site anymore. Spez has displayed a level of malice and disrespect for everyone, especially them. Why give him free labor?
That’s all it is. Every minute you spend moding reddit is polishing the investment you will never see a single dime of. Spez is going to get a good deal of money off you while spitting on you, and you will get nothing but saliva. Continuing to mod there is an acceptance of that.
Also, let’s be real, this isn’t the end of it. Reddit will continue to get worse as Spez continues down the Musk-path. Users already can’t block certain advertising accounts; I promise you a day is coming when mods won’t be able to stop them in their own communities if they decide to post there. Mods will be forced to make their communities adhere to even stricter “ad friendly” content guidelines, just like YouTube. Etc etc, on and on, ad infinitum. Why stay there for all that?
This is the time to leave, to find a new place to start your communities again, get in early and find places as mods around here.
Spez has displayed a level of malice and disrespect for everyone, especially them. Why give him free labor?
Especially when it reinforces his batshit delusions of being a post-apocalypse slavemaster: “I also have this somewhat egotistical view that I’m a pretty good leader. I will probably be in charge, or at least not a slave, when push comes to shove.”
Money and fame make you fucked in the head.
Have you noticed that all of those loud doomers are the rich Silicon Valley type? Him and Sam Altman and Musk et al. I mostly think that their main product is not tech, but fear, so they can sell themselves as the Messiahs of the unwashed masses and the only people responsible enough to control their technology.
These tech people really need to read more sci-fi, even their delusional doomer scenarios are just so unimaginative.
That’s pretty evident given that they don’t actually produce anything themselves. Musk’s not smart, he’s not even a halfway good leader. He can’t even do the shitty things without relying on others like the local governments to let him break unions or whatever. That’s just the billionaire way, they’re all fully reliant on others and the only reason we’d let them be in charge of anything is because, for some vague reason, we think they should be.
If ya can’t be good without cheating, ya aren’t that good.
“Every minute you spend moding reddit is polishing the investment you will never see a single dime of. Spez is going to get a good deal of money off you while spitting on you, and you will get nothing but saliva”
That’s why I MANUALLY(R***** won’t care deleting, cause those are, of course, their source for investment, so only I have to) delete all my posts, comments, history, profile and account including disjoining communities and connections (takes time 😮💨 but at least relieved from fear), forever and tough (let it go🎤🎵🎶), so that, the ungrateful head won’t ever milk anymore information I had put.
Information(data stored on databases) has made their success and profit(of course necessary but became greedy), and now they disgrace and maltreat the ones who’d helped the site flourished to become a wonderful world we’d ever wanted.
I won’t allow them to exploit any information from me whether personally, actually or technically (even a short comment or pic or data or a bit of silly word) for malice with AI coming(already here happening) to Internet.
Do to do fair action.
The end result is the same so what did that stand achieve exactly
At least they don’t donate their time and effort to Reddit anymore.
For some it ain’t much about the result, just the principle of taking a stand against something they precieve as not right.
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Even when you know you are going to lose, you still have to fight.
Looks like the nazis are gonna win might as well pack it in and accept it…right?
“Why even try?”
You don’t stand for much, do you?
Presumably now there’s no one moderating the sub?
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Thank you spez for introducing me to Lemmy, I appreciate that.
For real. I never heard of Lemmy until this happened.
Me either! Now I feel like I’m getting in on the ground floor of something big.
I’d heard of Lemmy and wanted to switch for at least a couple of years now, but without a critical mass of other people to post content there was no point. I’m excited that it’s finally a viable community!
Bit crazy watching Reddit devolve to FAST.
I guess disaster movies are right, we do go straight to hell real quick.
Reddit is picking a fight with the internet…
They’ll win in the end when the internet gets board like always. Still, it’ll be fun to watch burn, knock some value off the IPO.
Like Digg “won”?
remember Tumplr? Yeah, I don’t either
Steve Huffman is a bastard man
Steve Huffman is pissing all over Aaron Schwartz’s grave, and completely abandoning the ideals that was once a foundation of Reddit. Reddit was originally open source, Aaron died in 2013, and by 2017, Reddit had abandoned the open source / community philosophy entirely.
Never forget Aaron Schwartz.
“You have to do what the users want, unless the users don’t agree with us.” -Reddit admin.
All I have to say about this is that this was a blessing in disguise for me. I’ve never heard of the fediverse until this Reddit fiasco happened. I’m having a lot better time here being part of something new and it feels good to start fresh.
Same here, but I miss some niche subs.
Stick around and help this grow.
If you build it, they will come.
Like Pokemon just got to catch them all. 🙂
Same. I’ve been diving into Linux and open source and self hosting lately anyway, and at the same time you’re telling me open source social media is a real thing and gaining in popularity? Count me in.
they didn’t follow Reddit’s “Moderator Code of Conduct”, here’s a summarized version for anyone who wants to take their place:
Rule 1: Suck Steve Huffman’s dick.
Rule 2: Suck u/spez’s dick.
Rule 3: Suck it all the way to the balls.
Rule 4: Suck it like it is the most delicious shit in the world.
*New rules:
Rule 6: You are not allowed to put anything other than Steve Huffman’s or u/spez’s dick in your mouth.
Rule 7: Pay Steve Huffman and u/spez 20 million dollars a year each for sucking their dicks.
Reddit is going to do whatever the fuck it wants and will gladly fuck over the mods and users in the name of shareholder interests. These actions are chilling for anyone still considering building a community using Reddit.
Spez must leave. Meanwhile, the ones leaving are the ones that create the content that gives them visits and money. Very good decisions, yes. What a shame, Aaron Swartz would be shocked and furious, no doubt!
The dead can’t say one way or another how they would have felt, and using them as a voiceless weapon is pretty shitty.
What Spez is doing is bad enough on it’s own. There’s no need at all to disrespect the dead like that just to shore up your righteousness.
That’s absolute garbage. I am mostly on Lemmy now, but I unsubbed from mildly interesting anyway.
When you think about the situation, it’s really just Reddit cracking down on unions… Of unpaid workers… Who are defending customers’ interests… Which in turn support them… And all of this while pretending that they crack down on unions for the benefit of customers. That’s a really shitty move Reddit is pulling out right there.
yeah, but we are not the customer. we are the product.
Reddit needs suckers. People who are expendable, do as they’re told, and don’t ask questions.
I never thought I’d side with Disney on anything, but then came Ron DeSantis. I never thought I’d side with Reddit mods on anything, but then came spez.
The sad moral of your story seems to be “there’s always a bigger asshole”
Yeah, huh. It’s weird how that happened. Disney, ruiner of many small companies and destroyer of the purpose of copyright law on a deeply greedy level, goes against a sociopath nazi white nationalist, probably kkk.
Ten years ago, I liked Disney stuff but hated what they’ve done to the freedom of law and ruining the opportunities of many.
But here we are, post-2016 trump era, the world is way, way worse, and my activist political aunt was right.
She said to me, back then at a family get together after dinner, that electing trump is an extremely scary thing and would be bad.
I asked her what’s the worst that could really happen.
She kinda stared back at me, as if to gauge what to say. Then said that he was the type of person that brings all the awful things out from under their rocks, and told me to keep my eyes open and pay attention, because if he got elected, the next 4 years will be the type of history that only happens once in a lifetime.
She was 100% serious, as if she could see the future. But she was just in her 60s, big gay, from DC, and confident and loud. I can still see the the look of dread and sorrow on her face as she said that to me, and I doubt I’ll ever forget it.
Power typically begets more power, and the only way to fix it is to forcefully bend it to your will over and over again. I can’t believe Disney is where our trust is for civil rights, but, I guess it can always be worse and Disney knows that and is using us for support. It’s not great.
Fuck spez.
It’s like boomer sociopaths grew old enough in their time, and were like “yeah, ruin everything, yeah yeah”. But then millennial sociopaths grew old enough and are now like, “hold my coke…” Can we reign this shit in for the future generations at least? Because it’s awful.
