Apple removes app created by Andrew Tate::Legal firm had said Real World Portal encouraged misogyny and there was evidence to suggest it is an illegal pyramid scheme

  • hyperhopper@lemmy.ml
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    1. It’s not as simple as “not doing business with apple”. There are serious social ramifications to not having an iPhone in the US.
    2. Even if I choose to do business with them, I should still have Rights as a customer.

    It’s not easy

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      I have android, I don’t feel many “social ramifications” thankfully. Android is a bit more free, but it’s still ran by a large corporation that can change the rules at will, so there is no truly free (as in “freedom”) option. So, maybe it’s a duopoly instead of a monopoly, not much better really.

      (ok ok, there are some fringe minor alternatives, but not really ready for prime time).

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        I have had girls halfway through giving me their number, stop because they realize it’s not an iPhone. I have friends I hang out with multiple times a week for almost a decade that don’t add me to the friends group chat because it’s 15 iOS users and most don’t want to deal with non iMessage messaging. Are you seriously telling me you’ve never been in a single groupchat where people say things like “Wait who doesn’t have an iPhone in here”? Because I’ve been in dozens.

        At least on Android you can load any app you want at any time even if Google delists it from the play store. Literally did this the other day to install an app that Google didn’t allow that was only hosted on fdroid

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          I have had girls halfway through giving me their number, stop because they realize it’s not an iPhone

          They’re doing you a favor: they’re telling you they’re too shallow and care more about what you own than who you are. Works great to filter those people, I’d call it a feature not a bug :)

          Are you seriously telling me you’ve never been in a single groupchat where people say things like “Wait who doesn’t have an iPhone in here”? Because I’ve been in dozens.

          Never ever, but maybe my friends actually care about me more than my phone (also we use whatsapp so it doesn’t matter). Only thing I can say is, sorry …

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      @hyperhopper

      I’m in the US, and I don’t have an iPhone.

      See, it’s that easy.

      And you do have rights as a customer, you have a right to receive the service as agreed, and you also have the responsibility to abide by the terms of service (again, see point 1).

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        You probably have Android which, while more open, is still ran by Google who could, at will, decide to change the rules tomorrow by forcing an update directly to your (or my) phone. Besides those two, there isn’t much. While competition and free market is good, it’s not always enough, sometimes regulation is needed.

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          @ilmagico

          There is regulation.

          𝐈𝐧 𝐦𝐨𝐬𝐭 𝐜𝐚𝐬𝐞𝐬, 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐦𝐚𝐢𝐧 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐬𝐞𝐪𝐮𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐚 𝐛𝐮𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐬 𝐢𝐭𝐬 𝐓𝐎𝐒 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐠𝐞𝐭𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐮𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐬’ 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐬𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐰𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐛𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐢𝐭 𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐞𝐧𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐜𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐧𝐞𝐰 𝐓𝐎𝐒 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬. 𝐈𝐧 𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐨 𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐩𝐞𝐧𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧, 𝐚 𝐮𝐬𝐞𝐫 𝐰𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐬𝐡𝐨𝐰 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐬 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐓𝐎𝐒 𝐜𝐚𝐮𝐬𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐦 𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐮𝐚𝐥 𝐝𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐠𝐞. 𝐈𝐟 𝐬𝐨, 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐦𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐛𝐞 𝐚𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐦𝐚𝐤𝐞 𝐚 𝐜𝐥𝐚𝐢𝐦 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐛𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐟 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐨𝐫 𝐯𝐢𝐨𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐚 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐬𝐮𝐦𝐞𝐫 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐥𝐚𝐰.

          https://www.rocketlawyer.com/family-and-personal/personal-finance/consumer-protection/legal-guide/your-rights-if-a-business-changes-its-terms-of-service

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            I meant regulation requiring interoperability to prevent walled gardens. Kinda like net neutrality, but for “platforms”, if you will.

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                Yes, I can choose to use the fediverse, with plenty of instances to choose from, as opposed to a handful of centralized alternatives, but as far as mobile platforms, my choices are exactly two, and there is no (viable) fediverse equivalent. Of course I chose the slightly more open one, Android, but that’s hardly a real choice.

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        Terms of service can be incredibly one sided. And you don’t have the option to not agree or negotiate, and still use the hardware you paid for in a reasonable way.

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      Why do you care what other people think about the brand of phone you use? And I say this as someone who has an iPhone. I don’t give a shit if someone thinks I have an iPhone or a Nokia 3310. Why would I?

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      If there actually were serious ramifications to not having an Iphone in the US, then Android wouldn’t have more than 40% market share.

      The only thing you guys have a problem with are pompous snooty egomaniacs who care about the OS on someone else’s phone.