I tried Mac os and I thought it was cool until I got docker and it made me make an account. It also in order to change things in the desktop environment you had to pay for apps and I’m cheap. Windows is annoying to me after being on Linux for so long even if they have wsl. My computer broke and I ended up needing Linux to make an old MacBook we had work again is the only reason I switched originally.
Developing software I appreciate that the ide and terminal are super convenient to use.
Normal people for Linux… Nope. Getting my Bluetooth to work was a 3 hour journey. Normal people use their PC that much in a month where as I use mine 12 hours+ a day.
Yea and I bet you installed it for them. If you provide IT support for people than yea totally doable. I switched to android and people call my phone a cheap phone or laugh at it granted the people I hang out with me included are middle class at best and I have a flagship phone and they are rocking iPhone 11s and stuff. Point being marketing is key and open source doesn’t have a Nike like following
Tbf my mom doesn’t know how to install Linux, true, but she also doesn’t know how to install Windows. If you give her a bare metal laptop with no OS I would have to install either for her. If linux came preinstalled (say she buys a Framework and chooses Fedora), and she wanted to switch to windows after not liking it, I’d have to install it for her too.
She also doesn’t know that she can “search” inside her emails to find something, we’re not exactly talking about people who know how to do anything on a computer, so what, do you think I don’t have to “provide IT support” no matter what OS she runs? At least with linux I’ll be able to help instead of trying to figure out windows fuckery after not using it myself for years now.
As to the iPhone users, yeah they make fun of me too because they’re stupid, get good and turn it back on them like I do, “of course I don’t use iSpyOS, I use GrapheneOS like a smart person, get good scrub.” Those capitulating to the peer pressure are no different than them buying into the marketing, that’s part of their marketing.
The Church of Linux can’t save everyone’s digital souls, but that doesn’t mean we have to stop telling people the good word from the books of Torvalds and Stallman.
Sounds like you need to hang out with better people. I doubt my friends could even tell you what phone I use, and Androids can easily cost more than an iPhone. People who call it cheap are uneducated on the subject and leaning toward shallow at best.
I installed Mint for my grandmother. I only visit twice a year and I’ve never had to help her fix it. On the other hand, I have have had to recover family Windows computers that had a bad update.
Or just get good, iPhone users make fun of me all the time for using a non-iPhone, but I just flip it back on them,
“What? Of course I don’t have an iPhone, I don’t like spyware. I use GrapheneOS. Sure ‘your UI is so good that babies and the elderly can use it’ well get good scrub.”
Nah man, you just download an ISO and press next on the install screen.
I didn’t install it for my family, my siblings did and they are labourers. If something went wrong they might ask me but it’s been 8 years and I’ve never had to touch any of the family computers. However, they are only used to browse the web, so not much to go wrong.
I had to do a lot more maintenance on Windows a decade ago when they used excel for the family business. That was why they switched to Linux, apple sheets with MacOS was vastly more stable but Mac was $$$$, Linux was the better compromise.
People like to simp for M$ but for stability and simplicity, Linux is vastly simpler for a home user.
I can’t comment on enterprise use, there seems to be a lot of love for Microsoft Group Policies and VMWare among IT professionals, I dont like it but it must be good – not my area.
I tried Mac os and I thought it was cool until I got docker and it made me make an account. It also in order to change things in the desktop environment you had to pay for apps and I’m cheap. Windows is annoying to me after being on Linux for so long even if they have wsl. My computer broke and I ended up needing Linux to make an old MacBook we had work again is the only reason I switched originally. Developing software I appreciate that the ide and terminal are super convenient to use. Normal people for Linux… Nope. Getting my Bluetooth to work was a 3 hour journey. Normal people use their PC that much in a month where as I use mine 12 hours+ a day.
My whole family uses Linux Mint and they are normal people.
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Yea and I bet you installed it for them. If you provide IT support for people than yea totally doable. I switched to android and people call my phone a cheap phone or laugh at it granted the people I hang out with me included are middle class at best and I have a flagship phone and they are rocking iPhone 11s and stuff. Point being marketing is key and open source doesn’t have a Nike like following
Tbf my mom doesn’t know how to install Linux, true, but she also doesn’t know how to install Windows. If you give her a bare metal laptop with no OS I would have to install either for her. If linux came preinstalled (say she buys a Framework and chooses Fedora), and she wanted to switch to windows after not liking it, I’d have to install it for her too.
She also doesn’t know that she can “search” inside her emails to find something, we’re not exactly talking about people who know how to do anything on a computer, so what, do you think I don’t have to “provide IT support” no matter what OS she runs? At least with linux I’ll be able to help instead of trying to figure out windows fuckery after not using it myself for years now.
As to the iPhone users, yeah they make fun of me too because they’re stupid, get good and turn it back on them like I do, “of course I don’t use iSpyOS, I use GrapheneOS like a smart person, get good scrub.” Those capitulating to the peer pressure are no different than them buying into the marketing, that’s part of their marketing.
The Church of Linux can’t save everyone’s digital souls, but that doesn’t mean we have to stop telling people the good word from the books of Torvalds and Stallman.
I did, because when you buy a PC, Linux is not installed by default. If it was, I wouldn’t have had to install it for them.
Ever since moving everyone to Linux, I haven’t had to do any IT support. Honestly.
My Linux installs break all the time because I can’t leave well enough alone. It’s always been my own fault.
Sounds like you need to hang out with better people. I doubt my friends could even tell you what phone I use, and Androids can easily cost more than an iPhone. People who call it cheap are uneducated on the subject and leaning toward shallow at best.
I installed Mint for my grandmother. I only visit twice a year and I’ve never had to help her fix it. On the other hand, I have have had to recover family Windows computers that had a bad update.
Or just get good, iPhone users make fun of me all the time for using a non-iPhone, but I just flip it back on them,
“What? Of course I don’t have an iPhone, I don’t like spyware. I use GrapheneOS. Sure ‘your UI is so good that babies and the elderly can use it’ well get good scrub.”
Nah man, you just download an ISO and press next on the install screen.
I didn’t install it for my family, my siblings did and they are labourers. If something went wrong they might ask me but it’s been 8 years and I’ve never had to touch any of the family computers. However, they are only used to browse the web, so not much to go wrong.
I had to do a lot more maintenance on Windows a decade ago when they used excel for the family business. That was why they switched to Linux, apple sheets with MacOS was vastly more stable but Mac was $$$$, Linux was the better compromise.
People like to simp for M$ but for stability and simplicity, Linux is vastly simpler for a home user.
I can’t comment on enterprise use, there seems to be a lot of love for Microsoft Group Policies and VMWare among IT professionals, I dont like it but it must be good – not my area.
I use podman like a normal human.