You’re splitting hairs here for the sake of winning an argument. There’s no practical difference between cruelty and torture to the people suffering it. “Oh and don’t worry about it, because it’s only hundreds, not thousands in this particular torture cruelty facility”.
And as far as genocide goes, you’re moving the goal posts here, but if we’re playing that game, the native Americans might have something to say about that.
I mean, going back to the original argument here, my overarching point is really that people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones and the US’s track record of authoritarianism and human rights abuses is comparable enough to make them just as untrustworthy at the most and certainly not in any position to criticise a state who is trying to manage billions of people at the least.
There very much is difference between cruelty and torture, same as with 1st and 3rd degree burns and denying that is awful.
The native Americans are not being genocided today, Uygurs are. I don’t know about you, but I cannot change the past.
The US track record is by no means clean, but miles away from the likes of China, specially in recent years. And you should be able to criticize both (or more) without whataboutism.
You’re splitting hairs here for the sake of winning an argument. There’s no practical difference between cruelty and torture to the people suffering it. “Oh and don’t worry about it, because it’s only hundreds, not thousands in this particular
torturecruelty facility”.And as far as genocide goes, you’re moving the goal posts here, but if we’re playing that game, the native Americans might have something to say about that.
I mean, going back to the original argument here, my overarching point is really that people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones and the US’s track record of authoritarianism and human rights abuses is comparable enough to make them just as untrustworthy at the most and certainly not in any position to criticise a state who is trying to manage billions of people at the least.
There very much is difference between cruelty and torture, same as with 1st and 3rd degree burns and denying that is awful.
The native Americans are not being genocided today, Uygurs are. I don’t know about you, but I cannot change the past.
The US track record is by no means clean, but miles away from the likes of China, specially in recent years. And you should be able to criticize both (or more) without whataboutism.