• socsa@piefed.social
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    11 hours ago

    It’s not like China is going to stop making weapons if I refuse to make weapons.

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        10 hours ago

        I suppose the difference is that a country doesn’t just get conquered by force if it stops polluting.

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        9 hours ago

        Almost all pollution is by industries and not your parents, so…

        If anything you could criticize them if they voted to keep the pollution going.

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          7 hours ago

          Buying a big SUV, shopping at h&m, eating red meat multiple times a week, and flying to the other side of the world during summer, are all worse than voting for climate change. Companies don’t pollute for the sake of it.

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            7 hours ago

            Check out the EPA’s stats on ghg emissions at this LINK. 28% of emissions total are from non-agriculture/shipping transportation, and if you break that down then 57% of the 28% are light duty vehicles, all larger road vehicles are 23%, and aircraft are 9%.

            Since 2005 emissions carbon-equivalent total of the USA has fallen about a billion metric tons thanks to awareness and federal programs to reduce and eliminate emissions, almost exclusively in the Electrical Power sector.

            So even if you cut out all consumer non-business transport you’re left with 72% of emissions. A person who votes to curttail polution does more good than a person who drives a hybrid.

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              4 hours ago

              Hybrids don’t reduce CO2 emissions that much anyway. Better to go all electric and vote for climate protection.

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        10 hours ago

        yeah this is a really stupid argument

        “It’s not like Israël is gonna stop killing Palestinians if I refuse to kill Palestinians”

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      8 hours ago

      Doesn’t make you any less responsible when the fruits of your labor are used to murder civilians.

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          That’s a harder question to answer and depends more on your own moral compass. Do you believe that having better defensive capabilities empowers the users of your creation to feel safe enough to do evil things? I certainly don’t think you could absolve the makers of anti-missile systems who supply militaries that are committing genocide.