• A7thStone@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    How well is “western” Europe doing at curbing the global corporations ability to turn the earth into wasteland?

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      17 days ago

      The majority of people in an average western European country want to drive their car and fly to their vacation destination. They also might heat their homes with gas.

      Destruction of climate is not anti-democratic. There are green parties in every parliament and they get 15-30% of votes. E.g. only that many voters consider the issue of climate change to be pressing. The others believe things are fine, or that moderate measures are enough.

      You keep preaching “evil corpos oppress us poor”. But this is simply not true. The majority of the population is pretty content with the status quo, and if they weren’t they could change it any election cycle.

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        16 days ago

        You are making my point for me. They couldn’t do anything about the current system of they wanted to within the system. Consent has been manufactured, packaged, shipped, and bought.

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          16 days ago

          They perfectly can. It requires them to make a collective choices that will require individual sacrifices in order to achieve collective gains (assuming people actually see it that way).

          And that’s clearly not in anyone’s interest. And you’re one to tell them what’s wrong or right.

          There’s no system. There are free individuals living their lifes as they see fit. But you somehow keep imagining an evil monster that suppresses everyone’s free will, while you, the hero, are unaffected.

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            15 days ago

            If you actually believe there is no systemic oppression, and personal choice can change the world, I have no idea what to say except