• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Trump didn’t have all three branches of government on his side. He also didn’t literally say he was going to be a dictator. It’s not pessimism, it is realism.

    Do you think he was just joking when he said he was going to be a dictator?

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      13 days ago

      It’s not pessism to admit Trump is a wannabe dictator.

      It’s pessimism to sit there complaining about it without imagining paths and working towards a better alternative.

      I’m not one of these “anti-electoralism” people. I vote, and I think voting maters. But a lot more matters than just voting.

      You can’t just say “oh well we did our best” after you lose the electionand let facism happen. You gotta fight, you gotta advocate, you gotta defend those who need it.

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        He’s not a “wannabe dictator.” He made it very clear what he is going to be and he controls all three branches of government. On top of that, they’ve given him permission to do anything as an “official presidential act” (i.e. declare himself dictator) and it would be up to congress, who are on his side, to say he can’t.

        Fighting fascism doesn’t mean living in a pipe dream world where It Can’t Happen Here.

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          You’re arguing against someone who isn’t me.

          Whatever Trump is is irrelevant to my point. My point is its pessimistic and problematic to surrender to facism happening without putting up a fight.

          I’m basically saying: We gotta use all means necessary to fight facism.

          And to me it seems you end up replying: But Trump is a dictator.

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            When did I say anything about surrendering or not fighting?

            People sure like putting words in my mouth.

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              I didn’t say you did. But it’s been a confusing conversation because it feels like I make a point in every message, and then you disagree with a minor detail of my point, instead of having a conversation about the big picture.

              To me it feels like we aren’t talking to each other really.

              I’m basically saying: We gotta use all means necessary to fight facism.

              And to me it seems you end up replying: But Trump is a dictator.

              Which confuses me because not very relevant to my point.

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                I’m basically saying: We gotta use all means necessary to fight facism.

                I never said otherwise.

                And to me it seems you end up replying: But Trump is a dictator.

                I kept replying to your whole thing about how that was just pessimism.

                Which confuses me because not very relevant to my point.

                Your point seemed to be that the way to solve the fascism problem was targeted assassinations of CEOs.

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              It’s because you equivocate and dance around without saying what you mean.

              Just say you think violence isn’t justified and won’t get the results you want. People will disagree but at least your stance will be clear.

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                  13 days ago

                  It doesn’t matter that much to me either way as I’ve learned to limit my egagement with you but if you want people to stop putting words in your mouth you have to speak clearly

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                    13 days ago

                    I spoke very clearly: targeted assassinations will not fix the capitalist healthcare system. It will make things worse.

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                  13 days ago

                  Jesus Christ man, do you even have a point or are you just spinning your own tires here? Lol that entire above exchange was painful to read

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                    My point is that targeted assassinations will only make things work. I’m not sure why you didn’t get that.