cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3389331
More context: https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2023/06/26/france-browser-website-blocking/
As Mozilla points out, there are numerous safe browsing systems to which you can opt in — opting in being the key here — and there’s nothing preventing any entity, the French government included, from creating their own software, browser extension, or DNS service for anti-fraud purposes. They don’t need legislation for that, but they do need laws to force software providers to implement a non-optional, government-operated blacklist of “no-no” sites they deem unacceptable for any reason they see fit; it will absolutely not be limited to fraud alone.
France’s proposal is so stupefyingly contrived, it’s so obvious this is the true intention.
So what about things like cURL, wget, Invoke-Webrequest, straight up nc calls. Where does the line exist?
It’s not about making it impossible to reach certain sites. It’s about making it harder for normies. Take a guess if your neighbor knows about wget.
No, it’s not. It’s just not. The important question is how the law is written. Wild guess: they won’t target “browsers”. They’ll target “means to display remote content” or some shit to not have people rename browsers to surfers to evade that law. And depending on how generic they’ll make it sound, it’ll be a pain for not only every piece of software but maybe also stuff like digital binoculars or phone sex companies or whatever.
When did France’s government get taken over by US Republicans?
Macron’s been quite the fuckstick of late
When Le Pen gets elected in 4 years we’ll talk about the good old times with Macron.
Yeah amazing how the next asshole can re-contextualize the previous asshole. George W Bush looks practically humanitarian now in comparison to Trump, for example.
Well, they’ve heard people can use a VPN to bypass the current blocking (which is done by the ISP, usually through the DNS server) so they are looking for alternatives. It’s only natural.
As far as I know, all governments block websites. What would be more interesting is comparing which one sensors the most.
edit: to be clear, what I mean is: the method used by governments to censor the web is not as important as what is being censored. And I wish there was a simple way to monitor what is censored by each state.
I’m guessing China? Not sure North Korea counts
Oh, I wouldn’t even count China, NK and Russia. They block so many websites they are in their own category.
(Nearly) all governments limit car speeds on public roads, with external enforcement (fines, road design, etc.).
Yet AFAIK no government enforces the national speed limit through a speed limiter on cars.
Exact same goal, maybe even result, but I’m uncomfortable with the semantics.
Speed-limited cars are coming: https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/volvos-speed-limiter-positive-feedback/
That’s Volvo, doing that of their own volition. 180 km/h is well within “criminal charges” territory in most places, they’re not doing that for regulatory reasons but in order to improve their safety record. Completely different than if the government asked then to limit their cars to 130 km/h.
Edge got a shitstorm for in-browser self ads on the chrome page, now in-browser censoring? The internet bows down to EU, sure, but one nosy country? If at all the official download links for France would be laced, but not anywhere else i.e. its gonna be yet another joykiller for normies, like… even the thought of maintainers pushing another release specificially for a country is laughable. That’s my assessment anyways. Signed
