• parpol@programming.dev
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    When every other topic by windows users on lemmy is “windows sucks so much. Now they did X and Y, and everything is shit” linux users are going to reply with “use Linux”.

    It’s like hearing incels complain about never losing their virginity. The brothel is right around the corner, just get it over with.

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      That is so not the experience of most of us who just don’t give a fuck about what OS other people use. I love my Mac but I have no desire to talk about my OS like it’s a hobby any more than I talk about the kind of car I drive.

      I had to block linuxmemes because it was so spammy. I’m about to do the same to Linuxsucks as well.

      But for the record Linux users are the CrossFit/vegans of the tech world. We all know you love your OS and none of us care.

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        We all know you love your OS and none of us care.

        I care. I like hearing about it. Even when you make the wrong choice.

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        I feel that. I like Linux, but I also like using the right tool for the job, and sometimes that’s actually Windows. The rates of Linux talk here reminds me of Reddit like 15 years ago. It’s nice, but also I forgot how weird it is to be in such a Linuxy echochamber

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      So where do those of us who don’t think Windows is the literal worst OS ever fit into your analogy?

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            Microsoft just recently implemented a screenshot spyware on your computer and an AI with the widest attack surface for hackers ever on your OS and mixed it into your most basic tool, the file explorer, then blocked off a quarter of all users for using 2-5 year old hardware, instead of implementing software fixes to avoid hardware vulnerabilities.

            It then forced you to use a closed source hardware component that likely has a backdoor, to store all your encryption keys, required you to make a Microsoft account just to use your PC, and then use that account to spy on your every move both online and offline. It is a privacy nightmare.

            It then keeps overriding your default settings to make you to use Microsoft products over other ones, and have started baking in ads into various menues.

            If you still don’t think that makes it the worst OS, you’re obviously coping. I have used Linux, Windows, and Mac, and out of those three, Windows is at the very bottom.

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              A) None of that has actually happened. If you want to back down from hyperbole and provide specific examples, I will consider addressing them.

              B) The U.S. Government is not an adversary in my threat model. If it is one in yours, I assume you are running Qubes OS, which is a completely different conversation. With Windows, I have access to Secure Boot and TPM-backed full drive encryption (including hibernation support) out of the box. Can you do that with Linux? Also, you know as well as everyone else here that the MSA requirement is easy to bypass.

              C) Again, provide specifics. I don’t default any of my apps to Microsoft’s and this just doesn’t happen.

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                A) Windows Recall and Copilot. Recall will screenshot your environment every second. Copilot is an LLM which has access to virtually everything on your system. LLMs are also notoriously easy to fool into giving away information it was specifically instructed not to, and perform actions it was instructed never to do.

                B) The us government has no business collecting information about non-us citizens, but even for people living in the US, imagine having an abortion, and living in a state where abortion is illegal. In that case you wouldn’t want the US government to come sniffing either. But more importantly, privacy does not need to be justified.

                With Windows, I have access to Secure Boot and TPM-backed full drive encryption (including hibernation support) out of the box. Can you do that with Linux?

                Yes.

                Also, you know as well as everyone else here that the MSA requirement is easy to bypass.

                You know very well that if someone has to crack your OS to get it the way they want, that is not a quality.

                C) Again, provide specifics. I don’t default any of my apps to Microsoft’s and this just doesn’t happen.

                Press the windows key, write “how to open windows menu searches with firefox” press enter and let your favorite browser Edge look that up for you. A nice page will explain to you that windows doesn’t let you use your default browser from the windows menu and that you’ll have to install a script called “ChrEdgeFkOff” to circumvent it.

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                  A) You’ve said nothing relevant. We already knew all of this. Recall isn’t being installed or turned on on any of my Windows boxes. Copilot is dumb but it isn’t collecting any data you don’t voluntarily feed it.

                  B) I don’t disagree with whatever point you’re trying to make but it has nothing to do with Windows. Unless you know something we don’t?

                  B2) You’re lying

                  B3) What?!

                  C) You’re initiating searches through the Microsoft Windows Start Menu™ and are mad it’s launching Edge? Do I have that right?