• Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    lowering immigration

    Immigration isn’t the problem with housing, and immigrants aren’t a problem. So why put the blame on them? Are they ‘poisoning the blood of our country’ as certain people would say?

    The only problem with immigration is that it’s not easier to become documented, which creates a two-tier immigration system for the benefit of companies and detriment of workers.

    Housing can be fixed with actually good public housing, rent caps, and removing zoning laws that prevent dense housing from being built.

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      Where do immigrants live in trees?

      Oh course its going to increase any housing shortage.

      There is a lot of problems with immigration. Immigration as a whole is different to certain immigration. If you break it down certain countries, certain jobs and certain education levels can cause a net drain on a country.

      That’s not to say all immigration is bad. But to think all immigration under any circumstance is good is just a signs of being brainwashed by their side and refusing to look at anything that goes against their view.

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        23 hours ago

        The problem with housing is not the demand. Housing is a necessity. Blaming a supply problem on demand does not make sense. The issue is with supply. I’m addition to the points I made earlier about making housing more affordable and available, workers are needed to build new housing. More job programs are the answer to that, not restricting immigration.

        Immigrants across the board improve the economy and put more into welfare than they take out. So no, they are not a drain on the economy in any respect.

        Please, share the negative effects of immigration. Because it isn’t crime either. Immigrants are responsible for less crime per capita than US citizens. And the vast majority of drug trafficking is done by US citizens.

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          So how many people want to live in Manhattan? Bringing in more people will solve the housing issue?

          More job programs are the answer to that, not restricting immigration.

          Well we can agree on half of that.

          Immigrants across the board improve the economy and put more into welfare than they take out. So no, they are not a drain on the economy in any respect.

          This is the crux of it. This is the big lie here that is never backed up.

          Break down immigration by country of origin, education, even income. Look at the results on lower classes and up classes, look at the affect on housing and jobs. It will not be an improvement across the board for all those things.

          But I would love, love, love to see that data. But whenever it is shown it never shows what you claim it does.

          Because it isn’t crime either. Immigrants are responsible for less crime per capita than US citizens.

          For every group?

          Overall I 100% agree with you. That’s what I would expect.

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            1 day ago

            sure, but if immigrants comprose 2% of the population and make up 5% of the housing workforce, they’re still a net gain for housing

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              No. That’s poor maths, you’re comparing two entirely different things. This is why so so so many of the arguments and facts about immigration are in poor faith. People massively oversimplify.