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What an absolutely cowardly move. It’s one thing to not allow piracy on your own server, that’s you’re right, but to prevent your users from accessing communities on other servers? Way to give in to copyright trolls without even being asked. I would understand even if they received some kind of Cease and Desist. It doesn’t seem like it, it seems like they’re just willing sycophants who will probably federate with Meta at first opportunity.
The fact is we don’t allow copyrighted material, torrent files or direct download links on c/piracy anyway, it’s against our rules. So this whole thing is based on a malicious misrepresentation of our community, initiated by a user with a grudge against us, because we banned him for posting anti-trans and racist content.
that may technically be true, but I think people should be more willing to take a stand, and not just pre-emptively bow down to the copyright trolls, because it’s basically legally unenforceable especially the larger this the federation gets
I’ll give them credit that they didn’t defed the entire instance and I guess it’s their server their rules
If you want to take a stand, host your own instance. If you aren’t willing to do that, you are just hoping someone else will suffer the consequences for you.
to my knowledge this is the one instance that isn’t willing to take that stand lol, it should be understand that all instances in the federation share a common interest to protect their users against copyright trolls
That is the beauty of federation. You don’t have to accept everything because it is a choice of the different instances. There is no collective, but a series of independent voices.
I respect the right of the autonomy of instances and like I said, this is something within the domain of their individual moderation decisions, but we do in fact share collective interests, it’s like with federating with facebook, it’s not just a matter of individual instance preferences, anyone who federates with Meta would be blocked by everyone who isn’t because they then become data mining conduits.
This is somewhat similar to the DCMA issue, the copyright trolls are the enemy of all of us and if you’re willing to compromise with them without even a plausible legal threat. Well that hurts the rest of us. You might as well be inviting them to go after the other evil pirate instances.
What an absolutely cowardly move. It’s one thing to not allow piracy on your own server, that’s you’re right, but to prevent your users from accessing communities on other servers? Way to give in to copyright trolls without even being asked. I would understand even if they received some kind of Cease and Desist. It doesn’t seem like it, it seems like they’re just willing sycophants who will probably federate with Meta at first opportunity.
The problem with how this system works is that you have to accept all content on your servers that you federate with. Even linking can violate DMCA.
The fact is we don’t allow copyrighted material, torrent files or direct download links on c/piracy anyway, it’s against our rules. So this whole thing is based on a malicious misrepresentation of our community, initiated by a user with a grudge against us, because we banned him for posting anti-trans and racist content.
that may technically be true, but I think people should be more willing to take a stand, and not just pre-emptively bow down to the copyright trolls, because it’s basically legally unenforceable especially the larger this the federation gets
I’ll give them credit that they didn’t defed the entire instance and I guess it’s their server their rules
If you want to take a stand, host your own instance. If you aren’t willing to do that, you are just hoping someone else will suffer the consequences for you.
to my knowledge this is the one instance that isn’t willing to take that stand lol, it should be understand that all instances in the federation share a common interest to protect their users against copyright trolls
That is the beauty of federation. You don’t have to accept everything because it is a choice of the different instances. There is no collective, but a series of independent voices.
I respect the right of the autonomy of instances and like I said, this is something within the domain of their individual moderation decisions, but we do in fact share collective interests, it’s like with federating with facebook, it’s not just a matter of individual instance preferences, anyone who federates with Meta would be blocked by everyone who isn’t because they then become data mining conduits.
This is somewhat similar to the DCMA issue, the copyright trolls are the enemy of all of us and if you’re willing to compromise with them without even a plausible legal threat. Well that hurts the rest of us. You might as well be inviting them to go after the other evil pirate instances.