Dozens of Muslim scholars and faith leaders unite to send a powerful message to the Democrats
  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
    32·
    3 months ago

    You seem to think that letting the more genocidal republicans win would encourage the democrats to be less genocidal, which is bizarre.

    They are the same. They both support Israel undyingly, Biden is even sending in the troops.

    They move right when they lose to compete with the republicans because the republicans win with a right wing strategy.

    They move right because that’s what their donors want.

    If the democrats won all the time, the republicans would have to move left just to regain power, and the Overton window would move left.

    No, they wouldn’t. Fascism is Capitalism in decay, both parties are always moving rightward.

    Not voting for the democrats in order to move them left is insanity. They will respond by copying the more successful electoral strategy.

    If the Democrats don’t want to regain left votes then they are too far gone and we need a revolution.

    • davidagain@lemmy.world
      41·
      3 months ago

      You’ve tied yourself into all kinds of intricate knots. It’s simple. If you convince all the people who care about Gaza not to vote, things get worse for Gaza.

      If only right wing people vote, only right wing policies will win.

      If only right wing policies win, only right wing policies will be offered.

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
        22·
        3 months ago

        You’ve tied yourself into all kinds of intricate knots. It’s simple. If you convince all the people who care about Gaza not to vote, things get worse for Gaza.

        I have not. Things will not get worse for Gaza under Trump or Harris, they are fully aligned. Pretending it’s good for Palestinians to be murdered because the bombs are sent by a Dem is monstrous.

        Plus, I advocate voting, just for PSL or the Greens, anti-genocide parties.

        If only right wing people vote, only right wing policies will win.

        Dems are far-right as well, lmao. If you want left views represented, vote for left parties.

        If only right wing policies win, only right wing policies will be offered.

        Parties pick policies based on donors, not on the public’s opinion.

        • davidagain@lemmy.world
          21·
          3 months ago

          Well, you go ahead and continue to push the democrats right then. I can’t convince you. The outcome of the election will definitely convince the democrats. And I can tell you they will listen to the republican voters before they log on to lemmy.ml because there’s so many more of them and they actually vote in a way that affects the outcome.

          • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
            21·
            3 months ago

            And I can tell you you will continue to support the increasingly right wing Democrats, and in 20 years, if Leftists save the world, you’ll look back on your right-wing support with disgust.

              • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
                21·
                3 months ago

                If they move right, you’ll still support that until the end of the world. You would vote for Hitler if Hitler+ was the opponent, instead of lifting a finger against the system.

                • davidagain@lemmy.world
                  21·
                  3 months ago

                  Well, unlike you, I can tell the difference between Hitler and the democratic party. You’re so full of false equivalence.

                  If they move left, you’ll still not vote for them because you’re too pure to compromise and you will forever throw your supposedly leftist ideals on the dustbin of throwing what tiny tiny tiny power you have away and convincing anyone that shares your views to do the same.

                  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
                    22·
                    3 months ago

                    Well, unlike you, I can tell the difference between Hitler and the democratic party. You’re so full of false equivalence.

                    Where is the red line for you to stop supporting the increasingly right-wing Democrats? It certainly isn’t genocide, you’re voting for that this time around, so is there a meaningful point of no return? If not, you would vote for Hitler.

                    If they move left, you’ll still not vote for them because you’re too pure to compromise and you will forever throw your supposedly leftist ideals on the dustbin of throwing what tiny tiny tiny power you have away and convincing anyone that shares your views to do the same.

                    I have been advocating for revolution this entire thread. I am advocating for people to stop supporting the genocidal US Empire and do something other than legitimizing the US Terrorist State.