Good luck changing the 13th amendment to get that in prison part removed. Realistically it’s not going to happen for a long time. It’s stupid to campaign on something you have no feasible way to achieve.
The 13th Amendment doesn’t say “You must use slave labor” and, in fact, doesn’t even say “Prisons have a right to do slave labor,” it just says “This stuff we’re saying here forbidding slavery doesn’t apply to penal labor”, it’s negative, not positive.
Anyway, my original point is that you absolutely do not need to change the Amendment to amend prison labor laws, hence how prison labor laws have been amended in many states already.
Look I do not agree with for profit prisons. I’m not defending it. I’m just stating facts. You can try to convince the 6-3 conservative majority supreme court that the 13th amendment needs to reinterpreted, see how far that takes you.
Literally what is a single basis for what you’re saying? When has the SC ever struck down a law raising prison labor wages on the basis that prisons have a legally-protected right to slave labor? I genuinely think you have no idea what laws are if you can’t tell a difference between a sanctioned right and the absence of a prohibition.
If you read the article (or even just the headline) you’ll see that she isn’t campaigning against the 13th amendment’s punishment clause. She’s campaigning on abolishing subminimum wages for the disabled.
Article says “Except in prison” no idea why lemmy title is different. This is just more of the ol: “this is why this good thing that changes things for the better is bad”.
Good luck changing the 13th amendment to get that in prison part removed. Realistically it’s not going to happen for a long time. It’s stupid to campaign on something you have no feasible way to achieve.
Why not? I would expect ending slavery to pass in 2024.
The 13th Amendment doesn’t say “You must use slave labor” and, in fact, doesn’t even say “Prisons have a right to do slave labor,” it just says “This stuff we’re saying here forbidding slavery doesn’t apply to penal labor”, it’s negative, not positive.
Anyway, my original point is that you absolutely do not need to change the Amendment to amend prison labor laws, hence how prison labor laws have been amended in many states already.
Look I do not agree with for profit prisons. I’m not defending it. I’m just stating facts. You can try to convince the 6-3 conservative majority supreme court that the 13th amendment needs to reinterpreted, see how far that takes you.
Literally what is a single basis for what you’re saying? When has the SC ever struck down a law raising prison labor wages on the basis that prisons have a legally-protected right to slave labor? I genuinely think you have no idea what laws are if you can’t tell a difference between a sanctioned right and the absence of a prohibition.
If you read the article (or even just the headline) you’ll see that she isn’t campaigning against the 13th amendment’s punishment clause. She’s campaigning on abolishing subminimum wages for the disabled.
Yes and I’m criticizing the headline for sticking that in when it’s irrelevant.
Article says “Except in prison” no idea why lemmy title is different. This is just more of the ol: “this is why this good thing that changes things for the better is bad”.