Local amateur historian and occasional beloved family member Paul Poppavich vehemently dismisses news of fascism’s rising international tide, despite an encyclopedic knowledge of World War II history.
Well, the US stayed out of the conflict until after the Battle of Stalingrad. The US was hoping the Nazis would destroy the USSR, which it looked like they might, but once the Russians started pushing back west the US realized they couldn’t allow Russia to win the war. So they teamed up with the UK, invaded France and cleaned up the western front and told their people that it was actually the US/UK that won the war when the most sacrifices were made, and the actual turning point was achieved by the USSR.
Consequently fascism wasn’t completely eradicated, it was absorbed into the western consensus as the virulent anticommunism of the Nazis was quite valuable. Several high ranking Nazi generals were recruited to form NATO, and rocket scientists were also brought into the fold. The vast majority of companies, and their executives who cooperated with and were fervent enablers of the Nazis, received no punishment at all; as punishing business dealings with the Nazis would implicate american businesses such as IBM whose second largest customer was Nazi Germany (the first being the USA). The few executives tried at Nuremburg received diminished sentences.
D-day is June 6th 1944, its true the Americans were giving defense to the British, shooting at subs, protecting British ships etc., but that’s not really “entering the war” with the intention of defeating the Nazis so much as protecting an ally.
So yeah, you’re just ignoring everything we did before D-Day. We had been in the war for over two years by that point, in both theaters, but focusing on Europe. We had been protecting our allies up until Dec. 7 1941. We were in the European theater, with troops on the ground, as of early February 1942.
Well, the US stayed out of the conflict until after the Battle of Stalingrad. The US was hoping the Nazis would destroy the USSR, which it looked like they might, but once the Russians started pushing back west the US realized they couldn’t allow Russia to win the war. So they teamed up with the UK, invaded France and cleaned up the western front and told their people that it was actually the US/UK that won the war when the most sacrifices were made, and the actual turning point was achieved by the USSR.
Consequently fascism wasn’t completely eradicated, it was absorbed into the western consensus as the virulent anticommunism of the Nazis was quite valuable. Several high ranking Nazi generals were recruited to form NATO, and rocket scientists were also brought into the fold. The vast majority of companies, and their executives who cooperated with and were fervent enablers of the Nazis, received no punishment at all; as punishing business dealings with the Nazis would implicate american businesses such as IBM whose second largest customer was Nazi Germany (the first being the USA). The few executives tried at Nuremburg received diminished sentences.
So are you just totally ignoring that The Battle of Stalingrad didn’t start for 6 months after we entered? July of 1942 is later than Dec. 7, 1941.
We were landing troops in Belfast, Ireland as early as January 26, 1942, so how were we waiting for a battle that hadn’t even started yet?
D-day is June 6th 1944, its true the Americans were giving defense to the British, shooting at subs, protecting British ships etc., but that’s not really “entering the war” with the intention of defeating the Nazis so much as protecting an ally.
So yeah, you’re just ignoring everything we did before D-Day. We had been in the war for over two years by that point, in both theaters, but focusing on Europe. We had been protecting our allies up until Dec. 7 1941. We were in the European theater, with troops on the ground, as of early February 1942.