Sure felonies should be considered on a case by case basis, but there are many felons I’d have an issue with running for office, not just this particular one.
That’s good bait, but I’m still not taking it. I repeat my stance, felonies should be considered on a case by case basis, but there are many felons I’d have an issue with running for office, not just this particular one.
“Case by case” for political office is so obviously open to corruption you shouldn’t bother with it though, and felony definitions are already weaponized as they are between drugs and protest laws.
Hell, for that matter, isn’t a public record of convictions already your best version of a case by case system?
Each voter can decide which crime matters to them…
I’m probably more likely to vote for someone that caught a felony for protesting.
It’s not case by case, but crime by crime. It should be decided on a basis of rule of law as to which specific crimes, such as those reflecting character and not just a lapse in judgement.
Trump has many convictions reflecting on his character in this one trial.
Problem with that is you can’t attack someone’s character in court unless they try to use it as a defense so there’s no way that’s getting into the constitution in our lifetimes.
Practically I think that all felons shouldn’t be able to run for office given the nature of the system. Ideally it would be case by case, but yes it would be corrupted and used by those in power to stop people from running. We either need to allow felons to vote and allow felons to run for president, OR do not allow felons to vote and do not allow felons to run for president. Right now the system makes no fucking sense.
Good now that he’s a convicted felon he can’t run for president just like you can’t vote, right? …right? Fuck this system.
There are scenarios in which you’d support a felon running for office, it’s just this particular felon we have an issue with
No, I support keeping felons off the ballot because Republicans are the ones that stripped ex-cons of their right to vote.
How is a criminal voting more dangerous then becoming President? That was the right wing’s justification for taking away former inmates right to vote.
Allowing a felon to run is a legitimate check and balance that the people can have against the government.
It allows for the people to correct someone convicted of a crime by an unjust law. It allows for correcting (actual) political persecution.
This is a healthy thing.
That said. Fuck disenfranchisement. Directly fix that.
two wrongs don’t make a right
Kindergarten platitudes don’t work in the real world.
Restricting people’s rights to make a point doesn’t either
So restore the rights of millions of people that you stripped away and not just your party toadie.
What makes you think I support that traitor? I just think your idea is bad
Sure felonies should be considered on a case by case basis, but there are many felons I’d have an issue with running for office, not just this particular one.
So, let them run and voters will decide?
I only have a problem with this one running because he’s the only one with a chance of winning
That’s not true. There are other felons with a chance at winning, they just haven’t been convicted yet.
Oh yeah? Who?
That’s good bait, but I’m still not taking it. I repeat my stance, felonies should be considered on a case by case basis, but there are many felons I’d have an issue with running for office, not just this particular one.
“Case by case” for political office is so obviously open to corruption you shouldn’t bother with it though, and felony definitions are already weaponized as they are between drugs and protest laws.
Hell, for that matter, isn’t a public record of convictions already your best version of a case by case system?
Each voter can decide which crime matters to them…
I’m probably more likely to vote for someone that caught a felony for protesting.
What’s the felony charge for protesting called?
It’s not case by case, but crime by crime. It should be decided on a basis of rule of law as to which specific crimes, such as those reflecting character and not just a lapse in judgement.
Trump has many convictions reflecting on his character in this one trial.
Problem with that is you can’t attack someone’s character in court unless they try to use it as a defense so there’s no way that’s getting into the constitution in our lifetimes.
Practically I think that all felons shouldn’t be able to run for office given the nature of the system. Ideally it would be case by case, but yes it would be corrupted and used by those in power to stop people from running. We either need to allow felons to vote and allow felons to run for president, OR do not allow felons to vote and do not allow felons to run for president. Right now the system makes no fucking sense.
So anyone who is caught with too much weed in a certain state?
Anyone who “resists arrest” at a protest?
No, fuck that. Felons should be able to vote and run for office, unless convicted of treason or insurrection.
Which Trump should be.
I read that he could be taken off the ballot in some places, but I haven’t verified that.
Eugene Debs ran for president from prison. He got 3.4% of the vote.