• hopesdead@startrek.website
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    7 months ago

    No shock here. A majority of the world is on a stance of “anything/anyone against the state of Israel is antisemitism”. This is such a false equivalency. Just because something/someone is against what the government of Israel, does not mean it/they are hateful towards the Jewish people. Hell, making such an equivalency is placing actually Jewish people in an unintended hate group.

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      7 months ago

      It’s not majority of the world, it’s majority of the people in power.

      We’ve had sort of a revolution (or a reaction, however you want it) in the last 30 years, where a certain kind of people felt threatened by all the wisdom of the kind you get from reading Hannah Arendt or frankly anything intelligent and morals-related I can think of, and I think USSR finally dissolving galvanized them - both in their fears coming true when a totalitarian state fell, and in their hopes getting up when people just like them took power in ex-Soviet states.

      It’s a very strong principle - making human rights really a value, making genocide really a crime, making it clear that you owe nothing you haven’t borrowed, and so on, are in direct conflict with a certain understanding of the world order. But antisemitism as a specific case is connected to the experience of WWII, which is an important foundational myth (not meaning it didn’t happen) of the modern world. So one has to maneuver.

      Now, that certain understanding and that kind of people are not marked by anything notable - that’s actually their main quality. That’s people who are sufficiently social to bunch together, but insufficiently creative, intelligent and romantic to care about good, evil and duty. Their main achievements in our world are all about gaslighting and stealing.

      Such people are the most likely to have power today. Their power exists because of organizations and faceless groups being above the human, because when it’s not so, they are irrelevant.

      It’s a temporary situation just like anything else, of course, because the described culture cannot maintain structures control over which gives them power. It’s enshittification of nations, one can say.

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        7 months ago

        Hey, please remove the language “totalitarian” and be more specific with your language. We’re finding a lot of holocaust trivialization recently and words like “totalitarian” and “authoritarian” can be used to blur the line

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      7 months ago

      Majority of the government in the West. I am sure if you start reading news from arabic media you will see a completely different story.

      The problem is that international law is applied differently based on the country abusing it. And Israel is trying to shape the news perspective, by its bot army in English speaking of outlets and pushing hard a media campaign trying to discredit everyone who is not acting according to their interest.

      Their foreign minister is posting some despicable videos and trying to link Spain and Hamas and claim that Spain is complicit in war crimes is nothing but despicable and shows the morale of all their government.

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      7 months ago

      Its not just a false equivalence it’s actually antisemitic most of these people are only pro israel because they think that israel is need for the final battle against Satan we love you because we need you to die lol

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          7 months ago

          As I understand it, the prophecy is that when the state of Israel is fully unified once more, and the temple of Solomon is rebuilt, Jesus will return and the second battle of Armageddon will commence.

          End of the world, rapture of the believers into Heaven, the whole bit.