• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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    6 months ago

    The actual point, that I’ve repeated in many different ways here, is that problems caused by capitalist exploitation need to be addressed instead of being papered over. Why is it so hard for you to engage with the point being made?

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      6 months ago

      So would the Chinese people be better off with psychedelic therapy?

      And if so would that be papering over anything?

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        6 months ago

        People in China suffering from psychological problems would benefit from therapy the same way any other people suffering from similar problems would benefit. This should be obvious to anybody with a functioning brain. The fact that you felt the need to ask the question is quite strange to be honest.

        Meanwhile, as I’ve repeatedly explained, whether using therapy is papering over anything or not is a question of whether the underlying cause of mental problems could be addressed instead or not. Let me know if you’re still struggling with understanding this.

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          6 months ago

          OK, so you then believe that psycadelic therapy in China would be papering over the underlying causes of their depression?

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            I believe that using therapy instead of treating underlying causes amounts to papering over those causes. The location is utterly irrelevant to the point I’m making. I’m guessing China lives rent free in your head, and you’re evidently unable to form a thought independent of the word China.

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              6 months ago

              I just want to expose your BS propaganda headlines for what they are. You frame everything as a failing of america, when in this case having KAP is a sign of progress for america. And not having it is a sign of failure from China. You say papering over underlying problems is a bad thing, but when I mention the mental issues of the tibetans and the uyghurs you jump at the opportunity to paper over their plight by saying their lives get better ever year. When I mention the foxconn workers in China, you paper over it by saying its taiwans fault.

              You claim to support psychedelic therapy but where is your post that praises it? Where is your post that suggests it be brought to China? The fact of the matter is that you don’t care about the welfare of depressed people, you just want to make shitposts about how bad america is.

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                6 months ago

                If you mean you want to make a clown of yourself by making an incoherent argument that has nothing to do with what I say, then you’re doing a fantastic job of that!

                My post wasn’t about support for or against psychedelic therapy, that’s just a hamfisted straw man you keep trying to build. What I was talking about is how people are drugged up so they can put up with capitalist exploitation. It’s really adorable how you think you’re being very clever here while making a transparently idiotic attempt at an argument. Do better.

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                  How do you know that psychedelic therapy papers over anything?

                  If you knew anything about it, you would know that its exactly the type of thing that would open people minds to the reality of capitalist exploitation.

                  But it is obvious you don’t care about depression or therapy and are just looking for bullshit to feed your fellow commies

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                    How do you know that psychedelic therapy papers over anything?

                    If you don’t understand how poor work environment and being overworked causes mental problems, then you should educate yourself instead of clowning around here.

                    If you knew anything about it, you would know that its exactly the type of thing that would open people minds to the reality of capitalist exploitation.

                    Being a pampered little brat this may come as a shock to you, but being exploited is what opens up people’s minds to the reality of capitalist exploitation.

                    But it is obvious you don’t care about depression or therapy and are just looking for bullshit to feed your fellow commies

                    Ah back to your straw man since you don’t have an actual argument to make. I love how predictable you are.

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                    How do you know that psychedelic therapy papers over anything?

                    That’s literally the concept of using any form of therapy to deal with work related stess. Solving the issue involves changing your work conditions and removing the source of stress, while using mindfulness and medication is just a sticking plaster to numb yourself to the cause.
                    You’re trying to use the socratic method but you need to ask questions that aren’t fucking stupid for that to work.