I can’t really think of a reason for that as Reddit is hated somewhat equally by “both” sides of the spectrum. It’s just something I find interesting.
I can’t really think of a reason for that as Reddit is hated somewhat equally by “both” sides of the spectrum. It’s just something I find interesting.
Lemmy was initially created by communists.
It’s still in the process of being created, and the communism is a bit less in your face now alongside there being other contributors to the code, but that’s how it started.
What made the communism ‘in your face’ except for the lack of others posting content?
And now that the founders pretty much don’t post anymore, how is it ‘a bit less’ but still ‘in your face?’
What does the code comment have to do with it? Do you think this was FB or Twitter, with the devs pushing their political ideology with secret algorithms?
You see, I really don’t understand your reply. You seem to be arguing against the statement ‘Lemmy is much less US-centric than Reddit’ - right?
But Lemmy being less US-centric is exactly why people like communists make up more of a percentage of Lemmy, which is what makes their voices more visible/accessible.
If Lemmy becomes US-centric, it will naturally also become predominately right-wing like all other social media platforms in the US.
Are you arguing that Twitter is right wing because it is US-centric, and not because of Musk’s leveraged buyout?
I would argue that US social media platforms are (now) right wing because of aggressive financial attacks meant to break up open social engagement, as this is bad for business and sociopaths looking to exploit people for profit. Reddit was left wing, until it was bought and sold. Same with Twitter.
However my comment was merely rejecting the idea that Lemmy is left wing because it is not US-centric. Lemmy was started by tankies, who say they’re left wing and have some left wing ideologies, but really they’re more authoritarian fascists, and fascism is in fact right wing. However as Lemmy grew it became apparent that this stance would impede its growth - particularly in western markets - so the main devs have tried to minimise their political views and keep the program neutral; now those views are primarily concentrated at lemmygrad.
Lemmy is not US-centric, but that’s not why it’s left wing. Lemmy is left wing because rational empathetic thought is naturally left wing. Lemmy is full of communism because it was started by communists/tankies.
If you think Marxist-leninists are fascists, or like fascists, then you don’t really understand what either of those words mean man.
Communists are anti-state, tankies are pro-state.
And yet if Lemmy were US-centric, it would lack rational and empathetic thought because it would lack left-wing representation.
Yes, that’s correct.
The US is not inherently nor totally right wing, and Twitter was predominantly left wing until fairly recently. It might not have been full left wing socialist, but it was certainly left of centre.
I won’t argue this because it is almost impossible to prove one way or another.
Instead, I will make this argument: Neoliberalism is a right-wing ideology. It is also the main platform of both political parties that receive representation in the US. Therefore we can conclude - since only these two parties hold any significant power - that the right-wing has had an unbroken hold over the politics of the US throughout modern history.
Perhaps there are more leftists than I realize in the US. But if they don’t speak, and they don’t act, then what does it matter? They aren’t on Lemmy, they aren’t on reddit, and they aren’t in the streets making revolution. All I have found is neoliberals who call themselves left. Honestly I think that’s where most of our differences of opinion come from in this comment chain - some people think that neoliberalism is leftist, whereas I am going by the textbook definitions of left and right. And even those ‘left’ neoliberals constantly get jumped on by their own party members - I saw it all the time in r/politics. Republicans called that sub leftist but it was anything but.
Both parties in the US government are indeed right wing, but not everyone and everything in the US is right wing.
Communism is unfortunately a dirty word in the US, and socialism isn’t far behind it. It doesn’t help that there have been numerous foreign governments that call themselves communist that the US has labeled as enemies and fought against. As a result, an American labeling themselves communist is often ostracised. However, many people do in fact hold those ideals, albeit quietly and/or without naming it such.
An American politics forum is of course going to mirror American politics.
However Twitter and reddit as a whole were left wing. Not as in reading Marx, but in being for the good of everyone, with the core principle of serving the needs of the many rather than the desires of the few. They were also incredibly liberal. They’ve since been taken over by pseudo right wing authoritarian interests, gradually since around 2016.
Most of comments on popular communities boil down to “capitalism bad communism only solution”. Very in your face and everywhere
Yes, and I would say that’s because of lemmy’s communist/tankie roots. Which is a philosophy based in left wing ideology, however in practice it is more authoritarian fascism, which is right wing.
Which is presumably because it isn’t so US-centric, and doesn’t have to do with the founders/devs. That’s how it looks to me at least.