It had been in the works for a while, but now it has formally been adopted. From the article:

The regulation provides that by 2027 portable batteries incorporated into appliances should be removable and replaceable by the end-user, leaving sufficient time for operators to adapt the design of their products to this requirement.

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    1 year ago

    What about aesthetics? They used to have removable back covers before and there wasn’t any seam visible. This is not even a valid argument imho.

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        1 year ago

        What do you have against waiting a day or two, not being able to use the phone, for the battery to run out so that you can reboot it? Simply removing the battery seems like to much effort. /s

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            1 year ago

            I had issues with my phone (OP8P) where that didn’t helped.

            I pressed the power button for minutes and the phone stayed unresponsive, only letting it run out of energy solved it.

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          1 year ago

          Honestly that is mostly solved, all have some mechanism to reset it even if is completely frozen. Plus nowadays is not a that common occurrence.

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            1 year ago

            Sure, it doesn’t happen often. Those mechanisms are often just some software running in some microcontroller, which can also fail and manifactorers like to cheapen out where possible.

            It did happen to me maybe 2 times in >5 years, where not even long pressing power button helps. I was traveling by rail the last time and luckly had my ticket physically.

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        They removed physical buttons and access to batteries and now I can’t do shit when an app freezes (other than attempting to turn it off, but even then the “turn off?” Can’t pop up)

        Why do we love do design things like shit so much? It seems that every fist world struggle I ever had was due to bad design

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          1 year ago

          Never get this point, if your phone froze and the screen is not responding, how another physical button would have solved the thing ?

          And let’s be honest, there is still a combination of key to hard restart any phone.

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            1 year ago

            Because back in the olden days you could just hold down the physical power button to force a phone to shut down, same as you can do on computers still. This bypasses the frozen software and forces the phone to shut down so you can reboot it.

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                1 year ago

                If my phone is frozen it doesn’t respond to the power button because it’s software shutdown

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              1 year ago

              You can still absolutely do it

              iPhone X and later: Click Volume Up, then Down, then hold the Power Button for 10-15 seconds

              Android Devices: Hold Volume Down + Power for around 7-15 seconds

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            1 year ago

            Back in the day, when the phone froze, my power button shut the phone down and my home button still worked, even tho the screen froze.

            Now, my phone asks me if I want to restart, make a call or turn it off. … or it opens bigsby

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            It’s just nerds bitching. This entire thread is a big old helping of I’m going to completely ignore 95% of the populations preference for a small compact phone.

            Every single phone today can have the battery replaced for an extra $10 at your local shop.

            This is a non issue for nerds to reeeeee about.

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              1 year ago

              That’s absolutely not true. You cannot replace the battery of a flagship phone for $10 anywhere. The going rate at Best buy is $60. And some will flatly refuse because they don’t have the tools because Apple and others use ridiculous proprietary screws. Or intentionally stick a bunch of glue on the battery. Requiring repair shops to use heat, adding a huge degree of risk, and adding to the cost of the repair.

              Please tell me a place where they will replace a battery for $10. Batteries themselves usually retail for $20 and then you have to account for labor.

              Well I love compact phones sales suggest that they do not do very well. S10e and iPhone mini have been discontinued for that reason.

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                You are just including the cost of the battery. That’s completely unrelated. You are all acting like there is this huge barrier to getting an inexpensive replacement.

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        1 year ago

        i sure dont miss picking up three pieces and then reassembling my phone when I dropped it. my s2 had that issue for a long time until I ditched it. maybe bad design? havent had a removable battery phone since though.

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      1 year ago

      even fairly modern ones are slick, LG G4 (ok not exactly modern) is light and thin and with replacable battery. Gigaset smartphones are quite the bricks but it’s actually quite hard to open the batt compartment, that’s how well they’re fitted.