Oh come on, I am capable of way more than just being a marketing genius on Lemmy, and running one dumb repetitive joke into the ground like a shitty reddit novelty account isn’t very funny, unlike my new movie, “Barbie”, only in theaters July 21st.
(But seriously though, comedy is about timing more than anything else.)
Federated wiki does not sound like a good idea, as in, all articles coming from different servers. But we don’t have to go that far; hosting a wiki is quite straightforward.
If you’re already paying for hosting, you might as well just use the tools readily available. But for “fan” wiki, you’d require a strong enough core to handle that part while other contributes.
I think it would work like how it does here, where you can access/edit all the pages on independent wikis hosted on different servers with one account identity. Federation is about getting both the advantages of centralized services and independent operations (sometimes disadvantages too), and I think outside of forums, fan wikis are probably the best sites for a federation structure. After all, wikia/fandom already kinda operates like this.
Yeah… A lot of it is just reddit-like powermod activities and the insane bureaucracy and rule lawyering there if you go to any remotely controversial talk page. You would not trust info on Wikipedia if you saw how the sausage is made on the talk pages.
Essentially, he was a wikipedia admin who first got noticed during the GamerGate nonsense of essentially abusing his power to protect “his” pet pages, preventing other people from editing in the English translation of the Japanese show as oppose to the Romanji transliteration, and he got involved with the drama by obsessively editing Wikipedia to smear anyone on either side that angered him, until even Jimmy Wales noticed and told him to stop, he refused, then Wikipedia arbitration had to step in to permaban him, then he went to RationalWiki who initially welcomed him, until his obsessive page guarding tendency got him banned from there too.
Yes, this is every bit as dumb as it sounds, and it’s quite eye opening to see just how dysfunctional Wikipedia really is.
But then again, in the end it is functional, isn’t it? Guy started messing around and got shown the door, would’ve been far worse if he was still there. Assholes are everywhere, the fact that they get what they deserve is a plus to me.
“Functional” would not be the right word to use, because I skipped hundreds of pages of rule lawyering on talk pages, and even after Ryulong was kicked off he still told his friend on the admin team to keep preventing his pet pages from edited.
Wikipedia’s rules are so arcane and self-contradictory that the power users can rule lawyer their way into justifying nearly everything, whereas normal people just don’t want to deal with these things.
I would love to see a federated wiki platform form somehow, as centralization has honestly been pretty terrible for both wikipedia and wikia/fandom.
I thought all your comments were related to the Barbie movie
Oh come on, I am capable of way more than just being a marketing genius on Lemmy, and running one dumb repetitive joke into the ground like a shitty reddit novelty account isn’t very funny, unlike my new movie, “Barbie”, only in theaters July 21st.
(But seriously though, comedy is about timing more than anything else.)
Federated wiki does not sound like a good idea, as in, all articles coming from different servers. But we don’t have to go that far; hosting a wiki is quite straightforward. If you’re already paying for hosting, you might as well just use the tools readily available. But for “fan” wiki, you’d require a strong enough core to handle that part while other contributes.
I think it would work like how it does here, where you can access/edit all the pages on independent wikis hosted on different servers with one account identity. Federation is about getting both the advantages of centralized services and independent operations (sometimes disadvantages too), and I think outside of forums, fan wikis are probably the best sites for a federation structure. After all, wikia/fandom already kinda operates like this.
Wikipedia?
Yeah… A lot of it is just reddit-like powermod activities and the insane bureaucracy and rule lawyering there if you go to any remotely controversial talk page. You would not trust info on Wikipedia if you saw how the sausage is made on the talk pages.
Look up this guy called Ryulong for example.
I tried looking him up but all the info seems very confusing, do you have a tl;dr (or a link to somewhere that explains it in a decent way)?
Essentially, he was a wikipedia admin who first got noticed during the GamerGate nonsense of essentially abusing his power to protect “his” pet pages, preventing other people from editing in the English translation of the Japanese show as oppose to the Romanji transliteration, and he got involved with the drama by obsessively editing Wikipedia to smear anyone on either side that angered him, until even Jimmy Wales noticed and told him to stop, he refused, then Wikipedia arbitration had to step in to permaban him, then he went to RationalWiki who initially welcomed him, until his obsessive page guarding tendency got him banned from there too.
Yes, this is every bit as dumb as it sounds, and it’s quite eye opening to see just how dysfunctional Wikipedia really is.
I see, thanks.
But then again, in the end it is functional, isn’t it? Guy started messing around and got shown the door, would’ve been far worse if he was still there. Assholes are everywhere, the fact that they get what they deserve is a plus to me.
“Functional” would not be the right word to use, because I skipped hundreds of pages of rule lawyering on talk pages, and even after Ryulong was kicked off he still told his friend on the admin team to keep preventing his pet pages from edited.
Wikipedia’s rules are so arcane and self-contradictory that the power users can rule lawyer their way into justifying nearly everything, whereas normal people just don’t want to deal with these things.