Arguing for the appropriation of billionaires’ assets is not violence.

Some of those that burn crosses???

So basically, the choice is to spend 12 weeks with those idiots or with your baby? Seems like a no brainer to me.

Because you would refuse you would not be the one asked to do this order. You have a functioning conscience, which makes you unqualified for such a position.

A system cannot fail those it was never meant to protect.

Someone who cares about him needs to take him off the internet permanently.

As a loyal subject to HRH King Charles III, I propose agent 007 for the job. For King and Country.

He’s been prime minister for like 10 years, like 3 elections. People in democracies get tired of leaders after a while.

Thoughts and prayers to all those affected by this tragedy.

So long as Turkey isn’t part of it, is a good idea.

When you culture is so much about cOMpEtItiOn that you forget that sports are just a made up thing for witch we get to make whatever rules we like. Gender segregation in sports isn’t that eternal either.

If you’re that worried about different abilities competing, install a tiered system like the Special Olympics.

EDIT: Interesting read: https://daily.jstor.org/gender-incommensurability-in-sports/

What if the separation of competitions, “said to be a natural consequence of the differences between men and women,” is actually is “just a tool to create those differences”?

I do have to “Be civil and nice”, so I can’t actually respond to this drivel the way it deserves.

That’s the thing. I don’t decide he’s credible. The UN Special Rapporteur did.

And I mean, fuck Zenz, since engaging with this thread, I’ve actually learned more about Xinjiang than I wanted to. Here is a whole OHCHR Assessment of human rights concerns in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, People’s Republic of China https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/ohchr-assessment-human-rights-concerns-xinjiang-uyghur-autonomous-region https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/ohchr-assessment-human-rights-concerns-xinjiang-uyghur-autonomous-region Is this shady Zenz character cited? Yes (oh no!), in …2 footnotes among a total of 300 footnotes.

The claim that this one shady dude somehow is the mastermind (Emmanuel Goldstein much?) behind the entire set of Uighur allegations is fucking ridiculous. It’s like when antivaxxers or climate change deniers find the one off-colour source in some WHO or IPCC report and them latch on to that one to claim vast conspiracies.

Are Zenz’s opinions about lgbt people cited in UN HRC reports as reliable fact? No? So wtf are you talking about?

You’re right to point out my inconsistency when it comes to the two. Apologies.

So let me retract that and go back to this line: whoever Zenz is, the UN special rapporteur deemed him a credible enough source to include his work in a UN HRC report. The report has not been retracted. I’m not an expert on the sources, but I can in good faith assume that the UN HRC is a reasonable arbiter of reputability. This is the same standard as I use for other conflicts and controversial world events. I therefore accord this UN special rapporteur the same benefit of the doubt as his colleague, Francesca Albanese.

And just like I mistrust attacks on Albanese’s reputability when it comes to Palestine, I mistrust attacks on Obokata when it comes to Xinjiang.

And I’m going to leave it at that.

Mintpressnews are pro-Assad. I mean the same Assad who butchered Syrians, Lebanese and Palestinians and who operated CIA dark sites after 9/11. That guy. What’s mind boggling is that you call that …anti-imperialism. That’s not anti-imperialism, it’s crude campism.

I have nothing to say about Zenz’s politics, that’s why I don’t. His politics are irrelevant with respect to the truth of what he alleges.

But to centre Zenz in this discourse is disingenuous. There are about 84,000 entries in the Xinjiang Victims Database. Those are the people to centre.

There is nothing to engage with. You presented NOTHING at the level of credibility as a UN report. Just opinion pieces, youtube videos, and random noise. Enjoy your day.

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Are you joking? You must be joking, right?

Diplomats from 30 Muslim countries visited China’s Xinjiang region

A delegation of envoys and senior diplomats is not a fact finding mission. It is wining and dining and saying nice things. Give me a break.

US State Department accusation of China ‘genocide’ relied on data abuse and baseless claims by far-right ideologue

I’m supposed to discount the UN Special Rapporteur because I’m supposed to believe the ramblings of the website of a RT contributor? Do you have any Breitbart sources too?

The Xinjiang Genocide Allegations Are Unjustified

Opinion pieces are what we call “debunking” now?

Uyghur Human Rights Policy Act Builds on Work of NED Grantees

The US funding something via a quasi-independent organization (that Trump is defunding) is proof of the US funding something. It is not proof that the allegations are wrong, that’s just a version of the ad-hominem fallacy. During the Cold War, in Greece any remotely credible link to the USSR was used to crack down on trade unions, political organizations etc. Same thing happened during the Grande Noirceur in Quebec with the “padlock law”. Sumud in Canada has recently been banned as a terrorist front for having “links” with Palestinian resistance. The pattern here is common: instead of addressing what is being said, there is an attack on “the links” of the one saying the thing. It’s a cowardly, lazy and fallacious arguing tactic that I reject on its face.

[Xinjiang Vocational Education and Training Centers] prolewiki Xinjiang_Vocational_Education_and_Training_Centers

“Prolewiki”? Give me a break. What’s next, the conservapedia or the uncyclopedia?

Some Youtube video

Awesome bro.

[US-Funded Uyghur Activists Train as Soldiers of Empire] Consortium News

Some people of ethnic group X did something (according to random internet sources). Ergo… nothing bad can possibly be happening to ethnic group X?

A Reddit AMA Claiming To Be A Uyghur Quickly Exposes A CIA Asset Slandering China

Reddit drama disproves Uighur genocide. We’re being super serious here.

Also notably, it’s the WUC (a far right org that again your reporter cited) that supports Israel.

“My reporter” makes it sound like some journalist. We are talking about the UN Special Rapporteur of the UN HRC. What the WUC is is besides the point. It might be Elon Musk’s cat for all I care. What they say is what is important. And I am willing to assume that the UN Special Rapporteur did his fucking job and did more than just say “hey some randos are saying XYZ”. Same level of trust as I accord to Francesca Albanese.

Some links removed because the instance wouldn’t let me post them. Must be a CIA plot or some shit.

If the UN fucking rapporteur deems it reliable enough, and if the UN HRC hasn’t found reason to retract this report, then I have zero reason to believe some internet rando that it has been debunked. For all I know, your one liner responses are no different from pro-Zionist hasbara casting doubt on UN reports on Palestine.

And also, its the US, not China, that has slave labor camps. Just because an anti-semitic evangelical christian (adrian zenz) who works for the US government claims that China has forced labor, doesn’t make it so. These claims have been debunked over and over.

China has forced labour, according the the UN Special Rapporteur on contemporary forms of slavery, including its causes and consequences: https://docs.un.org/en/A/HRC/51/26