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      Exactly.

      Europeans like Chinese electric vehicles because they are affordable.

      Meanwhile European manufacturers are probably pushing behind the scene to restrict the Asian competitors on the market so they can decide what price is right.

      In the next months in France they will reduce the subsidies for Electric Vehicle with a poor CO2 bill like imported Chinese cars.

      So even less people will get to afford EVs.

      I don’t think this is just about cheap Chinese labor importing cheap Chinese cars to Europe. It’s also about Europe ignoring the importance of battery tech and manufacturing for decades and suddenly acting all surprised that we are not competitive.

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    Lol, a car industry that hasn’t innovated in years is suddenly threatened by innovation. Still, fuck cars. We should make them nigh obsolete with better public transport.

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      No. Chinese cars have been a thing in New Zealand for decades now and they are HORRIFIC. They import the good version for safety testing then promptly switch out the steel for cheaper “Chinesium,” and airbags for cheaper versions. No one should ever buy one until long term reliability studies are conducted. I will eat my hat if they’re anything other than terrible.

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        Yeah the “great wall” Ute’s et cetera have a terrible reputation here. They’re bottom tier fleet vehicles.

        Campers & trailers are the same. Too thin to be repaired.

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      Only if it had something to do with race. If it’s because you don’t think their manufacturing standards are high enough to feel safe that wouldn’t be racist per se.

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      Electric cars are so much simpler than ICEs…they’re almost “phones with wheels”…so IF you happen to “trust” “buy” their phones, it’s not a huge jump to cars…but it’s a jump 😅 , just not on principle.

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    State literally calls itself communist. (Operates more like a fascist state than a communist one)

    Conducts ever more of its industry through the state and strictly controls the banks and loans.

    Exercises huge subsidies across the entire economy which is visible through their massive and growing imbalance between their internal consumption and export.

    “You only say it’s not capitalist because they aren’t white”

    No I say they aren’t capitalist because they aren’t capitalist.

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      China is closer to neo-mercantilism due to the level if direct state involvement in private business.

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        As a nationalist economic policy, neo-mercantilism integrates well with the fascist economic model, particularly in this age when the masses are so accustomed to foreign goods that they might find the explicit notion of autarky alienating.

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          Yes but ideologically China is not aligned with fascism at all. They are on paper still pretending to be Marxists. Fascism is opposed to Marxism.

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        And what do you call an authoritarian ethnic state that has co opted capital to ensure and spread state control over public and private life?

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    They have an electric suv under $20k usd

    Sure, it’s probably gonna last like a mid-90’s Kia, but for the price it’s pretty nice.

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      At the rate of industrial investment into this tech coupled with some places punishing gas cars, a cheap car that spans the gap from now until affoedable and better EVs is the perfect prescription, not to mention we havent stopepd having some form or financial crises since covid.

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        I think it’s debatable. Is it really good if all the energy that went into making the vehicle goes to waste because it only lasts 50k miles? At that point you’re basically building disposable vehicles.

        I think the sweet spot for this period is in hybrids that allow people to run on electricity around town but also have the ICE as a fallback for long/extended trips. The main hesitancy with EVs is range anxiety (ignoring high prices) and hybrids solve that issue while still retaining a lot of the benefits of an EV.

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          The problem with that is that phevs are surprising expensive/heavy/complicated. It’s why Chevy discontinued the volt over the bolt. And why chevy had to cut a lot of costs on the volt to get it down to a semi-acceptable price (the volt didn’t even have power seats except on the Premier, and only on the drivers side).

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            Honestly, I prefer not to have power seats. It’s faster to adjust manual seats in my experience and there’s both fewer things to break and less weight.

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              I’ve found I can never get a manual seat just right myself, they’re either slightly too far forward, or slightly too far back.

              Electric let’s you get it just right

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        If I was in the market for a new car, I’d strongly consider them because of the cost even knowing the quality may be low. It’s still an EV and would hold its value for now. It’s a good alternative to the slim-pickings we have here in the states

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      Government trying to steer a herd of impulsive and selfish citizens into doing what makes sense for the collective (or what they believe makes sense (or what they’re trying to convince us they believe makes sense))

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        deeper nested brackets Or what the car lobby tells them they should try to convince they believe makes sense

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              I think ruining things is just their whole identity, but tbh, of all the things they’ve ruined, triple brackets is pretty low on the list.

              RIP to all your apparent Internet communications that people have taken as weirdly out of place anti-semitism though