- 2025: Search removed. Spend a decade crippling the function, then claim the usage data support getting rid of it!
- 2027: Expiring updates. Juice those watch numbers with a new artificial scarcity measure. Marvel Bullshit 49 Theatrical Trailer, available for seven days only! Featuring AI Robin Williams and a Mr B_ast guest ad!
- 2028: Web Environment Integrity inserted. Hand warmer sales crater as mobile viewers relish their new handset functionality.
Adblockers are eventually just going to become undetectable because of this. Adblockers are about to get so much better!
Next tactic to stop adblocking: we will come to your house and break your fucking legs if you even THINK about installing ublock
Then a few days later ublock removes it
They’ll send someone to your apartment and make sure you consume the ads. No blocking, no muting, no looking away.
I don’t really know how people can even use YouTube without ad blockers. Sitting through minutes of advertisement is not going to make me want to buy your product if I start mentally associating your product with frustration and annoyance. If these video ads are going to be repetitive and annoying, at least make them funny.
It seems like there is nowhere on the Internet to get away from ads currently, even here, where you thought you are safe, you are now reading an ad for my newest movie (you know the one), now also available on streaming!
Even superstars are too cheap to pay for Premium, eh?
I’m not cheap, I’m frugal, there is a difference.
Paying Google for them to stop shoving ads in my face doesn’t feel like a good purchase and I don’t want to support that kind of behavior, and I’m smart enough to use uBlock Origin and ReVanced (Little bit of a struggle though.)
It’s more about principle than anything else.
@MargotRobbie@lemm.ee As a creative on strike I would have thought you would have felt some solidarity with the content creators who make 50% of the ad revenue you are withholding from them by blocking ads.
I pay for premium because I can’t stand ads but I do want to support creators with a share of my subscription, even though I know it is less than they would have made if I watched the ads. I thought maybe you would feel the same given you aren’t hurting for money either.
I know it is not a perfect system, but I do appreciate the content creators I watch enough to want them get payed. I subscribe to Nebula too for this reason, though I admit I should use it more.
@InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
Have you watched the ending of that movie? Refusing to participate in a broken system is always an option.
If you would like to support your favorite creators, buying their merchandise or donating to them would be far more effective.
Suck my balls Google
How did manipulation to make you buy specific shit become so accepted?
This is not what is happening. Google offers you a tier with advertising for free. If you’d prefer to not have the ads, you can pay a small fee, get no ads and also steam every song ever. I truly don’t see the controversy.
It’s literally cheaper than a beer for a full month of this service, but people would rather spend hours of their time tinkering with settings instead. Personally, I don’t have that kind of time.
If I’m not mistaken, the “tinkering” necessary in uBlock Origin would take much less than the time you took to type out your comment. And no, it doesn’t cost less than a beer.
You have a point, but the problem goes far beyond ads vs. no ads. There is definitely a lot of controversy, and you simplify choose not to see it, but don’t try to act like everyone else is just too dumb or too poor to see things your way when neither of those are true.
If I’m not mistaken, the “tinkering” necessary in uBlock Origin would take much less than the time you took to type out your comment.
I did not say that applying today’s partiucar fix would take hours. For however long this fix works works. I said “people would rather spend hours of their time tinkering with settings instead.” Of course I use ublock myself, the web is appalling without it.
As to the price of beer, that may be an Australian thing. But if you manage to get a schooner (425ml/15 oz) at a public bar here for less than $10, you’re probably drinking something crap.
You have a point, but the problem goes far beyond ads vs. no ads. There is definitely a lot of controversy, and you simplify choose not to see it, but don’t try to act like everyone else is just too dumb or too poor to see things your way when neither of those are true.
I see what people are complaining about. They’re acting like they are being forced to visit the website. A website that sits behind one of the largest and most responsive network/web clusters on the planet. A website that is somehow referencing over an Exabyte of storage, geographically redundant and presumabely being backed up. I work in this industry, on a network with over 1,000 servers and my mind boggles at how much infrastructure that takes. I couldn’t begin to estimate what is behind that simple YouTube web front page.
Somehow, the controversy is that Google has the gall to want to recoup some of these costs. It costs a fortune for just the hardware. Then add the bandwidth. Then somehow they’re paying content creators to put popular videos on the platform. And they offer it all to you for free in return for watching some ads. Or alternatively, you pay $10 to not watch ads.
I see what you mean on that last point, but I think their profits are just insanely above what the average company’s looking at, which is probably why it seems like so much at face value.
Just the data alone that they’re complaining on almost everyone out there would more than make up for what they spend. It’s most likely why Facebook and others are also free.
As far as being forced to visit, there really aren’t many alternatives on the same level to where you can really say someone can easily do without. It’s what they wanted in the first place, so it’s not like this wasn’t something they weren’t planning for ahead of time.
It’s a tough situation, I don’t know that I wouldn’t do the same thing in youtube’s place, but I don’t think simply accept what the big Corp tells us is the best path either.
If YouTube premium was $4.99 a month it’d be worth a consideration. But then again adblocking is free and privacy respecting
Family plan split 6 ways among friends and family roughly comes out to $5/month
Pfft you think JCDenton has 6 friends and family to split the cost with?
I’m not gonna pay for a service that harvest and sell my data
I agree
Unpopular opinion: They should’ve just started charging big creators, kind of like Vimeo. Mofos be having youtube ads, sponsorships, built-in ads, courses, merch stores and patreon, and then they whine when youtube wants them to comply with advertiser’s demands.
YT Creators get paid a share of ad revenue and that is what funds their channel. Charging them would just kill a lot of channels.
Good. It’s the same for me as regular businessee: if you can’t make a profit while don’t breaking the law, you shouldn’t make business.
It’s already regular business, they aren’t breaking any laws by running a channel and getting ad revenue…
Here are a couple argument why it shouldn’t be legal:
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Patreon: In the real world, you can’t just give money to a business for nothing, there has to be some kind of value exchange. Patreon probably has some bullshit in their TOS that you’re not actually donating, but buying some “perks”, but that’s not what a lot of youtuber’s convey in their messages. To accept donations the “right” way, they would have to register a non-profit entity, then they’d have to publicly report exactly how much they received and spent, from where and on what. If they also do ads they’d have to also have a separate for-profit entity, and overall they’d have to be very careful with how they use the money as the non-profits can’t just give money away either. None of the youtubers I’ve seen actually do this.
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Ad integrations: It should definitely be against Youtube’s TOS to have ads inside the video (and possible other sponsored deals), because most major channels can easily find their own funding, disable google’s ads and use their infrastructure without paying squat. And if they don’t, by doing advertisement themselves they’re still Google’s competitors, as you can’t shove infinite amount of ads in a video - the viewer’s patience is limited and they tend to either leave the platform or set up ad-blockers, both of which cut into Google’s revenue. So what I meant by “charging creators” initially, was some kind of deal among the lines of “If your video reaches 100.000 views, you owe us $0.10 per 1000 views over that, unless your video has ads enabled and not demonetized” or something like that.
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You absolutely can give people money for nothing, and the receiver pays taxes on the amounts unless they fall under specific circumstances such as charity organization.
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You have to select that your video contains advertisements during the upload process. Failure can result in a channel strike, and three strikes can lead to channel deletion (which can result in a huge monetary loss for the channel owners).
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Oh no, I will have to do something useful with my time instead of watching 100 viral and algorithmically selected videos designed to enrage me – one after each other. WHAT WILL I DO
edit stir up shit here I guess
It sounds like you algorithmically encourage this content too
Man y’all really expect high quality, extremely diverse, and robust video streaming platform for free?!
YouTube gotta pay it’s bills somehow. Why y’all ok with paying Netflix/prime/hulu or whatever but not YouTube?!
YouTube don’t owe nobody free services. Get over it.
😂 reading the replies to your comment is the fun part. Watching people lose their minds over a comment.
This is only the 3764th post this week…
And I will gladly read 3,764 posts more.
To be the man who read 7,528 posts to fall down at your door
Even if I have to sit through 30 seconds of silence, is there a way to redirect the ad to a ghost browser so I don’t have to listen to something like grubhubs stupid video?
Stop using YouTube, go for new pipe/piped/invidious instead. Same content without the fucking bullshit.
Example: http://yt.whateveritworks.org
Or ReVanced
Cannot get this to work for the life of me. Worked for a bit, then it stopped working again and no amount of repatching fixes it
All I need YouTube, specifically, for is to access new posts on my subscription list and to give my content creators likes and views. But I have to be logged in for that, and so far, the blocks seem to be limited to logged in viewers. So right now I’m just not logging in, lol. And if YouTube won’t let me give my preferred content creators likes and views by trapping them behind a login/adwall, I can still use my subscription list with Freetube (which is awesome on PC) or one of the other front ends.
You can easily get all your YouTube data via something called Google Takeout; do that and you have a list of all your subscriptions, history, lists, etc and you won’t lose access to it just because you’re logged out, or no longer using the YT front end for your viewing needs.
Also, when I get a bit of time to make the switch, I am going to start using a different account for Youtube. One I don’t give a shit if they shut down. There is a free import/export tool in the Chrome web store called “Subscriptions Importer For YouTube” that lets you import 50 subscriptions at a time (more if you pay for premium), but honestly I’d do it manually just to insulate myself from having the entire account banned for ad evasion, which is a possibility depending on just how badly they want to force ads/free up drive space.
So try watching on a different browser without logging in, and see what happens. You should be able to get in just fine. And logging in on your main browser will still enable you to get your YouTube data, which you can then use however you like. It’s a pain in the ass, sure, but right now it might be either that or ads, until a more stable situation is reached.
#BoycottGoogle
