Why YSK: Spotify forces you either to pay, listen to ads or to find unofficial, potentially dangerous versions to use it. It’s better to find a free alternative, both for your wallet and for your peace of mind.

Introducing: ViMusic

Downloads: https://github.com/vfsfitvnm/ViMusic

  • Free and open source
  • No ads/trackers
  • Song lyrics
  • Music from both YouTube Music and YouTube
  • Weights 2MB or so
  • Beautiful UI and amazing UX

Cons: no high kbps streaming support

DO NOT TRY TO DOWNLOAD THE APP FROM ANY SOURCE OTHER THAN THE ONES LISTED IN THEIR GITHUB PAGE. They are malware.

  • _MoveSwiftly@lemmy.worldM
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    1 year ago

    Could you please add a “Why YSK:”? It’s rule #2. It’s also helpful for readability, and informs readers about the importance of the content. Thank you. :)

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    1 year ago

    AFAIK ViMusic is no longer being actively maintained. An similar app which is InnerTune although I’m experiencing some weird glitches during search (unable to subscribe to an artist and playlist tab remains empty for every search).

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      1 year ago

      It’s true its last update was in November, but the dev(s) still monitor and reply in the issues tab. Most important, the app works flawlessly.

      The project still seems alive to me, but if you prefer innertune by all means go with that! I followed it for a bit (when it was still called “Music”) and it’s a great app

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    1 year ago

    Potential bias: I’m a developer at Spotify.

    “Spotify forces you either to pay, listen to ads or to find unofficial, potentially dangerous versions to use it.”

    I don’t think the company forces you to do anything. It is their business model, how they can provide copyrighted music to you and have a share of the pie too.

    I’d say the very idea that Spotify is forcing you to pay with time and attention or money so you can have music conveniently streamed to your devices is a testament to the company’s success. It created this business model and fulfilled an apparently basic need to the point you think that charging for it is unfair.

    But “forcing” is too much. You can always buy discs, digital downloads and so.

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      5 months ago

      Spotify took an existing thing and made it convenient and worse at the same time. How long before we are just listening to AI music? Since their cost is the artists…it’s only a matter of time.

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      1 year ago

      Of course they don’t force you to use spotify, but it’s one of those “soft monopolies” many other companies have. It’s not the only option, but they basically are, because everyone thinks so: it’s like whatsapp, if you catch my drift (everyone use it because everyone’s on it)

      And when a company realizes they’re in that position, they will prey down on their users without fail, and I’m talking about:

      Privacy invasive app: https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/com.spotify.music/latest/

      Investing in military AI: https://mixmag.net/read/spotify-daniel-ek-ai-defence-investment-criticism-news

      Patents for extremely invasive technologies: https://www.accessnow.org/press-release/spotify-tech-emotion-manipulation/

      Allowing disinformation during covid, not paying properly the artists and many other things I’m not going over for sake of brevity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotify#Criticism

      What I don’t like about spotify and all the companies who are in a similar position in the market is that, as usual, their share of the pie it’s unfairly big, which is why I try to drive people away from them. Not saying YouTube is better, but at least with vimusic you don’t have to listen to ads (which I think heavily harm people’s mental health, among other things)

      Of course music can be bought, but people only buy what they like nowdays, and use online services to discover new music. Few have the money to buy music and listen to it for the first time afterwards. Many people don’t even have the money to meet their basic needs, let alone buy music

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        1 year ago

        Spotify really isn’t a “Soft monopoly” though. There are a lot of competitors in the music streaming business. Youtube music, Apple music, and Pandora, just to name a few. Sure, Spotify is perhaps the most commonly used, but it’s also unfair to punish a company because they’re successful.

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        1 year ago

        Not to argue against any of the points against Spotify, but YT Music (and it’s parent, Google) are much worse; leaving only Apple Music with a much smaller library as a realistic alternative to streaming music.

        I do miss the old days of Google Play Music though - it is a shame what Google did to a neat app with a standalone subscription.

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        1 year ago

        I’d also add that I wish Spotify paid the musicians better. Even relative to other platforms Spotify is pretty bad about that. Of course if you want to support the musician it’s always better to buy merch and music and stuff directly from them, but that isn’t really an excuse for streaming platforms to pay them so poorly. And I’m not suggesting that Spotify should just give the musician everything of course. They should get their cut too. But perhaps something even slightly more reasonable would be appreciated.

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      1 year ago

      Yeah! You choose your songs, create your playlists and stream all the music you want. No ads or costs

      Vimusic is free and open source software, just like lemmy

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    1 year ago

    I’m not affiliated with the devs in any way, I’m jusy a user tired of bloated apps and ads.

    If you’ve never installed apps from github/froid I’ll be glad to help you out

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    1 year ago

    How long is this likely to stay online? It sounds like it’s circumventing paid services (YouTube Music, specifically) - I can’t see Google being too happy about people skipping out on paying for their service.

    (I’m not saying this is a bad idea, I’m openly wondering about the longevity of the app and slightly nervous about the dev’s wallet when it might come to a lawsuit. I don’t know if that’s a thing that would happen.)

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      1 year ago

      As long as you can acess an youtube music from the web, it should be safe to keep working (as long as google doesn’t rewrite something on their end) there are a gazillion of projects that are able to stream/download from youtube (youtube-dl, newpipe come to mind now)

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        1 year ago

        How? Projects like Newpipe, Invidious, Freetube have existed forever. this is no different.

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    1 year ago

    I discovered ViMusic a few months ago and the app is just amazing!

    It even saves all your played songs offline.

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    1 year ago

    Thank you so much for showing me this. I’m sick and tired of Spotify and YT Music locking crucial features behind paywalls on mobile (playing with without shuffle on Spotify and background playing on YT Music).

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    1 year ago

    Just pay for Spotify… £10 for access to almost every song ever published. People need to appreciate how good they have it.

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    1 year ago

    Adverts like this post shouldn’t be a think in “YSK”. It makes no sense.

    This app is literally just music piracy in a fancy shell anyways. Since there’s no YouTube ads displayed, artists get nothing. Think Spotify is bad at paying artists? Try… piracy…?