• TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works
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      I mean, it’s sexual assault obviously, but in this case, “using a sex toy on them” provides a bit more context than just generically labeling it as “sexual assault”. Sexual assault could be many different things.

      The article also goes on to describe that they put the sex toys in the men’s mouth. I think the “used a sex toy on them” is just more descriptive in this situation, because if they used “sexual assault”, people would not be able to decipher what these POS officers actually did.

      I do agree that the media can be terrible about minimizing sexual assault on men, but in this case I think the headline is more descriptive. Also , fuck these racist rapist cops.

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        “Raped a man with a dildo”

        Brings the same point across while accentuating what actually happened.

        They raped him. They forcefully penetrated him with a fake penis. That’s rape even according to the current bullshit definition.

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          I totally agree there. They should make it as graphic and specific as possible to really show how fucked up the situation is and show how terrible the perpetrators are, at least in my opinion.

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          I agree with the article only using the word rape to describe that they were threatened to be anally raped. I think calling everything rape dilutes the meaning of the word. Forcefully stuffing a plastic or silicon object in someone’s mouth doesnt quite fit the word. Cops are absolute vile pieces of shit and I’m annoyed I had to read the article to know what the misleading headline was talking about. The comments weren’t helping either.

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        You “use a sex toy” on a partner.

        It’s not a sex toy when you don’t consent; at that point, it’s just being raped with a foreign object.

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          I agree. I never said anything different either. I am just saying that this provides more context than sexual assault. If I was in charge of the headline it would probably be “rapist and racist cops torture and rape suspects mouth with sex toy.” But I’m not. As an observer, I felt more informed by the headline than if it just said sexual assault or rape, and you were more informed, too.

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            I reread your comment after I replied and realized I sounded like I was accusing you of otherwise. Not my intention and thanks for the note.

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        “Raped with a sex toy” is more descriptive and accurate and almost the same length (shorter even) as “used a sex toy on them.”

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        He wasn’t raped. He was subjected to enhanced interrogation. Besides, they sprinkled some crack on him so it’s all good.

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      Because just referring to it as sexual assault, might portray that these cops where gay, and we can’t have none of that.

      /s

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        Yes we can:

        Dedmon then threatened to anally rape the two men, but when he moved toward Jenkins’ backside, the deputy stopped when he noticed that Jenkins had defecated on himself, according to the information.

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        Yeah we all know how masculine the police in the US are. What’s more manly than a bunch of men compensating for their small penises by randomly killing civilians!

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    “raped” they raped him. Even by americas fucked up definition of rape. Raped him. Why can’t news just say ‘they raped the man’ always with weird innuendos.

    The police are rapists. So easy to type. Almost flows off the keys.

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        Woah woah woah. Let’s not jump to any conclusions about everyone yet. Let’s wait it out until we get all the facts before we say something so profound. Even if they did something of that nature there must be a good reason, they wouldn’t make choices like that without good reasons.

        /s I think this is obvious, but just in case

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      After reading it I feel the rape part is by far not the worst part of what they did. How long were these fucking criminals getting away with this shit. If he hadn’t shot him (reads like he meant for it to not fire the second time he pulled the trigger with his gun in his mouth) then we wouldn’t even know about this and they would still be out there posing as police officers

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    Before reading: “Wow, what a sensationalist headline!”

    After reading: “Somehow that headline underplayed it.”

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      The article doesn’t even mention that the shooting happened during a forced game of Russian roulette.

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        It kinda does, but it doesn’t make sense:

        After removing a bullet from the chamber of his gun, Elward stuck a gun into Jenkins’ mouth and pulled the trigger. The gun clicked. Then he racked the slide, only this time, the gun fired a bullet

        Usually Russian Roulette involves removing all of the bullets except one. This shitbag removed just one bullet. But most importantly, Russian Roulette is done with a revolver and the mention of a slide indicates it wasn’t a revolver.

        So… I don’t know what happened here. Did this Elward shithead say he was going to do a Russian Roulette thing but didn’t understand how any of that works?

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    Makes you wonder how often stuff like this happens … it seems that they were only caught because they accidentally shot one of the victims.

    I remember seeing a film years ago called Mississippi Burning (set in the 1960s) about how entire communities and institutions condone behaviour just like this - and thinking “thank god such stuff doesn’t happen any more”. That now feels like a remarkably naive attitude.

    Pretty grim reading.

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      I’m white and I was punched by a cop in front of my house last year that then denounced me of hitting him, falsified a medical report, forced a courier to testify against me and of course has his partner who confirms everything he says. No matter the fact that I recorded with my phone him saying that he hit me (in self defense he says but in the report he wrote there’s no mention of a self defense), asking if I had cameras (if not he could tell whatever he wanted), that he pushed me the prosecutor is accepting his version. So fuck the police. I’m disabled by the way.

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          Thanks. Sorry to hear they didn’t behave properly with you either. I mean, it’s nothing compared to what happened here but still they are too prone to resorting to violence and go unchecked most of the time. I’ll serve no time but I’ll still have my criminal record tainted for the first time which sucks.

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        Only the chosen whites are immune from police brutality. If that’s not you then you’re no better off than me.

        Sorry that happened. ACAB.

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          Yeah mostly if you can pass as mid-upper class minimum. I think making police brutality purely a race issue can suggest if the brutality was equally distributed it would be better. That’s the view that benefits politicians and capitalists at least, and the mainstream notion of diversity and inclusion that corporations promote. Connecting police brutality to people’s position in the political economy challenges a lot more than abstract racism.

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      Not to twist the knife, but looking at all the cases that have relied on bodycams or bystander phone cams - almost always coupled with a police report that the video proved later to be a lie - makes me shudder to imagine what was going on every single decade before cops had to always worry about likely being on someone’s camera.

      I have my concerns about what the increasing proliferation of cell phone cameras, private security cameras, and doorbell cams mean for general privacy, but no doubt this behavior is only going to get harder and harder for cops.

      We’ll know we’ve crossed a turning point when most of the time the video doesn’t prove the initial police statement was a lie. Don’t think we’re there yet, but we’ll get there. And frankly it’s become clear that police aren’t going to change their behavior without being caught a lot more, so at this point I say bring on the cams.

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      Makes you wonder how often stuff like this happens … it seems that they were only caught because they accidentally shot one of the victims.

      Actually, no. They’ve been caught before, but it didn’t quite stick. I think that makes it worse.

      From the article:

      The Rankin County Sheriff’s Department has faced previous lawsuits related to police misconduct, some involving the officers named in today’s indictment.

      More details are in the article about other incidents.

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        Yep, and there’s no way the shariff wasn’t aware of them. He should be held equally accountable for keeping them on the force.

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      All the time. This is how the police normally operate in the United States. If you meet a cop that doesn’t do this then congrats you’ve found a unicorn.

      Source: I have relatives that are cops 🤮

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    I don’t tend to make generalizations about a whole department but I seriously question if Rankin county is better off without a sheriff’s department entirely.

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      Yes, it’s wrong. It’s understandable to want retribution, but it doesn’t help improve the situation. We need to be better than that, even when our gut reaction is, “to hope these goon fucks get what’s coming to them in prison?”

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      “Prison was fine, I didn’t mind prison. Except for the anal rape part. Yah, that part I didn’t enjoy much, that anal rape thing.”

      • Norm MacDonald
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    The sad reality of the name of the newspaper being so true. This is Mississippi today. Not 400 years ago, or 60…today.

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    on one hand, I wish I wouldn’t have to read those headlines because it depresses me

    on the other hands, there’s no point in muting that information, because people should know those things and should be angry

    I thought “we should read good news”, and then /r/upliftingnews appeared and it was just a rose-colored glasses thing.

    we actually need to hear bad news to make people react.

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      I want to hear good news when we actually fix things. I don’t want to ignore bad news or to have news mischaracterized as good.

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      This is revolting.

      Also, his life was heartbreaking too.

      He had been trained as an electrical engineer in Haiti, but in New York, Louima was unable to get a position related to his education. He worked as a security guard in a water and sewage plant in the Flatlands area of Brooklyn."

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    I don’t often advocate for the death penalty, but fuck these pigs. They don’t deserve to live. That or solitary life imprisonment.

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    Jesus Christ on a cracker. I thought the headline was bad, and the article made it so much worse. I don’t even have words.