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    So the people who screamed about the scary, scary BLM protesters rioting due to what they (rightly) viewed as a miscarriage of justice now think rioting should happen because of what they (wrongly) view as a miscarriage of justice.

    As usual, it’s okay with they do it.

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        Literally everything. They’re afriad of Land Back because they fear the Native peoples will take the land the same way the founders of America took it. They’re afraid of equality because they think when Black people do better it must mean they themselves will be worse off because they cant imagine wealth without exploitation, the way they used to make wealth for themselves.

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        They took their stupid shot on Jan 6th and then they realized they were mostly larpers. Projection to the point of action.

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        It’s kind of wild actually. When Trump talks about this case being “fixed,” and the judge as being “corrupt,” he’s telling us exactly what’s going on in his other trial with Trump appointee and person with no prior trial experience (if I recall correctly) before being appointed to her seat on (looks at notes) huh, the “United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida.”

        Wait a second…

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        And if they make that argument, I’ll tell them that means they believe people are “guilty until proven innocent” and don’t deserve a trial by a jury of their peers, which is as unAmerican an idea as you can get.

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          Not going to be useful. They don’t want a democracy, they don’t want a justice system. They want a king and the ability to use state power to shit on other people.

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            Trust me, I am in Indiana. I’m surrounded by these flag-waving morons. You call them unAmerican and they lose their shit. And all I have to do is pull up the Bill of Rights.

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              I get all this talk about their rights yet they seem so fundamentally opposed to me having mine.

              These people are terrible citizens.

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                No argument from me. As the person above said, they don’t want a democracy or a justice system. They are as bad a citizen you can get without actively sending classified information to a rival power.

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                  They are all members of the cult, just sadly the majority of them don’t realize they are. This is David Koresh on steroids! He has a platform previous cults did not, and has captured a political party to use for recruitment. It has become apparent that at some point the media and the country need to start treating his cult as such, and we need to figure out how to “rescue” millions of people that would do anything for their cult leader because they have broken all tethers to reality. Putting the cult leader in jail is not going to bring these people back, and is going to require mental health resources on a scale the US (and the world) has never had to deal with before. This is going to have repercussions for generations.

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                They’re downright bad people too. They dont get to do a few good deeds while trying to use political power to do away with human life and human rights without being called the moster they are.

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              Either PBS or NPR had a thing a few years back where they’d read sections of the Bill of Right on air, as part of Independence Day celebrations.

              The right wing folks who heard it thought it was communist propaganda.

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        Well… that’s true. In this case, the person who got charged actually went through the court system rather than being murdered by a cop.

        Which seems… fairer?

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      Yes. That’s literally the platform. They say whatever they have to to cover their asses because all they really care about it being able to do whatever they want while forcing everyone else to do live by their rules.

      They don’t care when you point this out because that is their goal. They’re shameless about it.

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
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      The thing I think is the most irreconcilable, incompromisable, consistently demonstrated behavior of The Right in America is the blatant hypocrisy about nearly all of their planks. It’s the thing that, when the next civil war comes, will allow me to pull the trigger on anyone wearing a red baseball cap with little remorse.

      • Everyone needs guns to defend themselves from The State, because 2A! (Except for black people defending themselves from no-knock entry cops who got the address wrong)
      • The government shouldn’t be allowed to tell us how to live! (Except for LGBTQ* people, women’s choices about their own bodies, or homeless people)
      • The Constitution is sacrosanct! (Except for the part about separation of church and state, we just ignore that part)

      It’s the same for their every. Single. Position. It makes me weary, and furious, depressed and pessimistic.

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        Except for black people defending themselves from no-knock entry cops who got the address wrong

        Don’t forget Philando Castile, a legal gun owner who did exactly what the NRA said you should do when pulled over with a gun in the car and got shot. The NRA made barely a peep about it. Can’t imagine white.

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          Fuck the NRA. The majority of gun owners who aren’t NRA tit suckin cop fuckers, still are pissed about that injustice, same with Breonna Taylor and Kenneth Walker. Anyone suggesting the police are there for them and want to disarm us all, these cases and a bunch more like them, are why we say fuck no.

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            While I personallywould prefer a constitutional amendment that overrides the 2nd, I’m not giving up my guns until the cops are no longer armed criminals, and you’re never getting my crossbows.

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          Castile wasn’t the last of it, either. Roger Fortson recently was gunned down for simply having a gun. He was not brandishing or pointing it at anyone. It was a very similar situation, just not a vehicle stop.

          It won’t stop until someone makes it stop. Qualified Immunity has got to fucking go.

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        It’s the thing that, when the next civil war comes, will allow me to pull the trigger on anyone wearing a red baseball cap with little remorse.

        Nationals and Phillies fans seem unfairly targeted…

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          St. Louis Cardinals started selling blue ball caps. Not sure if it’s related to the 2016+ phenomenon, but I like to think it is.

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          Yeah, well, if they’re still wearing that shit during an active civil war - I mean, we’re taking about Phillies fans, so no great loss.

          (Note: I lived on The Mainline for 20 years, so I think I’m allowed some ribbing. Phillies fans not only regularly trash Philadelphia in drunken riots after games, they also came to my new state and totally trashed Minneapolis while they were here. I don’t believe there’s a worse bunch of hooligans in the States.)

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        I wish I could after on the guns things but I should not own a gun! I have a history of depression and I super don’t want to have easy access.

        That said, put a gun in my hands and I’ll do my part to end fascism. I’m even a fairly decent shot for having only fired a gun 3 different times. Just please take the thing away from me when I rotate out.

        Better yet, get me an fpv headset.

        When I joined the militia I had promised myself to kill one Fascist – after all, if each of us killed one they would soon be extinct… -George Orwell, Homage to Catalonia

        • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
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          I’m not advocating anyone buy a gun, mind you. My general opinion on guns is the same about cars: the only person I truly trust to operate one is me; the rest of all y’all are just generally unreliable.

          That said: get a long gun. Any non-Bulpup rifle with a 20” or longer barrel - it’s really hard to commit suicide with a long rifle. You can find a way, sure, but there are far easier, more reliable ways to off yourself than trying to figure out how to pull a trigger you can’t reach when the bangy end is pointed at your head. And the knowledge that most people who try doing this end up still alive but permanently mangled and with reduced faculties may drive you to seek those alternative methods.

          Another plus for a rifle is that it’s simply a better weapon for killing fascists. We have a lot of evidence that handguns are almost never used in armed conflicts. They’re far less powerful than rifles (in general), and their effective ranges are drastically shorter. Get a cheap optic, do some practice shooting, and you’ll be better armed and prepared than any open-carry idiot running around armed only with their trusty Colt M1911 with official Trump pistol grips.

          I really wish that last part was a joke.

          I don’t mean to come across as minimizing mental health issues. I also can’t prevent you from trying to off yourself. All that said, I hope you are able to get help, and get healthy.

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            Hey thanks, this is an idea that I hadn’t thought much about and I’ll have to consider it. I also need consider storage and how to get to a range without a car but those things are workable.

            As for my mental health, I’m doing well and feel in a good place all around. I got married a year and a half ago and have a stable life. I’m doing good. This will have to be a process if I’m going to buy a rifle but your arguments have opened me to the idea.

            • Glad to hear you’re in a more stable place! I know it’s a constant struggle; rarely do people just “get better” and never gave issues again, but I’m glad that you’re on top of it.

              Open carry is legal almost everywhere in the US. You could literally put a sling on it, strap it on your back, and ride your bike to the range. If you shoot a common caliber, you can buy ammo when you get there (assuming it’s a range in or near a store). You’d need to check your local laws about what you need to do to open carry a gun and ammunition; like, can you have it in a protective case?

              Anyway, good luck with your journey.

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      You’ve got to remember, they don’t view the BLM reasons as miscarriages of justice. Because they’re morons.

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    Funny how they’re calling for riots instead of going to the streets and rioting.
    I wonder if they remember what happened to them the last time they tried that shit 🤔.

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      Pepperidge farm remembers. The crowd that was all about “back(ing) the blue” managed to kill a police officer and four of themselves.

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        And the rubes who believe them here, do you expect them to exert 30 feet without their phones telling them what to do?

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      There are a lot of armchair generals on the Internet. Unfortunately not limited to the Republican side of things.

      But the Republican ones tend to be bigger hypocrites since they usually condemn rioting when anyone else does it, especially if they aren’t white.

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      ?

      These are likely the same ones that pushed 1/6 and spent a lot of time telling people to do it.

      The reason they’re still doing that, is they weren’t the ones to actually show up.

      They’re not gonna stop doing it, because they didn’t get any consequences from last time.

      All they gotta do is keep making these posts saying someone should do something. And chances are some idiots will do it.

      Like, remember that main old guy from American History X?

      He got naive kids to do the dirty work, so he was able to spend decades doing it without any consequences.

      For real life example, just look at Alex Jones. How long it took for him to even go to court, and how he’s still not in jail or paying any judgements.

      But he’s still running his mouth and telling others to do the work.

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      This was abundantly clear to everyone on January 6th. It was so blatant that, at the time, most conservatives claimed the entire event was actually undercover BLM and “Antifa”.

      Then the convictions showed it truly was all Trump supporters, and now none of them are talking about it.

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    Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. - Francis M. Wilhoit

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        And the world was shocked because he is someone the law protects but does not bind.

        Trump is currently being protected by Supreme Court justices who are literally deciding whether he’s bound by any law. You can bet that same conservative majority would make sure he’s protected by all of them.

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    Favourite part of the whole article:

    A spokesperson for Truth Social said, “It’s hard to believe that Reuters, once a respected news service, has fallen so low as to publish such a manipulative, false, defamatory and transparently stupid article as this one purely out of political spite.”

    “You never saw what you thought you saw. And even if you did, it was entirely justified and your interpretation was extreme.”

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      Yeah, and I guess the trans people that end up dead in the balance will just be considered sacrifical lambs then?

      It’s ok though, we’ll make sure to use the correct pronouns at their wakes.

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    …thus showing that the “Law and Order” party was never about law, they just want a particular kind of order- that is, a hierarchy wherein people below them on the status-ladder know not to try to hold them accountable to anything, including the law or even plain decency.

    To them, the law is the cudgel to keep the poors and plebes in their place- low in the order- never to be applied to them.

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      That’s Republicanism and that left the US Republican Party years ago.

      Now it’s all about Conservatism through any means. And it’s not even pure Conservatism: it’s heavily tainted with Tribalism.

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      They are absolutely delusional. I went to the cesspool that is /r/conservative, hoping, PRAYING for people to respond like normal human beings on reading news like that.

      Nope.

      None of this.

      Complete delusion, with select quotes:

      “He still has my vote”

      “Liars! Liars on the witness stand. This poor man does not deserve this”

      Americans are a different breed altogether.

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        Nah, they’re Confederates. This is the South trying to rise again, as they always said they would. They cannot be allowed to.

        The South must rise anew.

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            They’re not just in the South anymore either. They probably wouldn’t admit they want a king, even though you’re right. But it’s the same movement regardless. They are the children of the Confederacy, attempting to bring it back.

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    They want their perceived enemies to make the first move. They might be calling for violence, but many of them are cowards and also love to play victim and win the sympathy Olympics.

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      Unfortunately for them their worst nightmare just started: the one thing they can’t help but try to come attack, Being Gay In Public Season

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      I would not be surprised in the slightest if the right performed a false flag as justification for further violence.

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      No, they know that Trump supporters are the types of people to actually listen to and heed these calls.

      This is stochastic terrorism straight up… Or is just flat out terrorism, they’re not really hiding it. This is the spokesperson of a “social media platform” (lol I know I know) saying this, not just some random casual Fox News watching R voter.

      And he knows exactly who he’s talking to. It’s a clear attempt to mobilize.

      Goddamn people must really be this stupid. I guess we just need to experience this pain first hand like Germany before we fully grasp what we are allowing to take hold of our government.

      But even looking at them these days, it seems like 80-100 years is all it takes for everyone to start forgetting…

      Edit: Came back after some thinking and realizing that the communications director for Truth Social probably literally is just some random Fox News watching R. Just not casual I guess.

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      That’s what I said when I was watching J6 on TV. “Come on! Fight the cops you pussies!”